Roro wrote:
astro you reported 3 cops for camping outside ammu and when I checked they were near their car taking photos or testing something (with Behind) and I even got them to jump on my car roof and drove them away from Ammu, then you attacked one of them and when I killed you, you called me a "Fuckin idiot" and said I was "fucking around" instead of "doing what I'm supposed to do". You also kept your /assist ticket open for 8 minutes after the cops left the area
1- why're you so determined to get 2 players punished for being near ammu? Sure it's not allowed to camp but they weren't even there for criminals and it was obvious
2- I could've respawned them, but there was a situation in staff chat which made me postpone my decision, don't think I can disclose it but you should know I checked your reports and checked the players, just because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean I'm "fucking around"
3- Situation had nothing to do with the players' scores, the player you reported was issued a 0 point infraction but I replied with "Punished" because it's still an infraction, rather than a verbal warning, if you really think I didn't punish the other players because of their score then we have VERY different thought processes
I hope you understand that I don't have anything against you and that you shocked me when you unnecessarily lashed out on me in-game over something so silly
The players got reported for abusing /ammo to call flares on ammu roof and use it as excuse to camp there having placed 5 flares and rebuying more and placing again. I got killed by them got jailed 3m went there they still there i die i go to jail again 3m again i go there they still there so aproximate thats arround 15m geting from jail to ammu-jail-ammu-jail-ammu.
You say there were no criminals so thats acctualy camping cuz criminals cant reffil there. You said you ve checked reports but they were open never got invalid nor warned punished before that. I had /assist open when i was fighting them yeah (you can do /done when no answer after 1 min) but you could have like any other when i do /helpme just open it up and close it with /done so no more hard times for you or. For the newbie with almost 1000 score you could have warn him acctualy and not instantly give him infract warning but thats on your side choosing the punishment and give feedback that you warned. And meanwhile you was arround there were also few other admins/mods who were online at that time watching them i mean being blind on them while it takes 2 secs to spec the player and see what he does. Players abusing stuff and just laughing not being punished gets me mad everytime this usually happens every night when no staff is
Karbz wrote:
Mooore draaama, I'll read this properly and review the post when I get home.
Drama is when you actually involve players and other sides for something he said or did /she said or did and no i didnt
, me involving staff team to be more cautios and more reliable is not a fuckin drama its just help and support thread 🙂
Actually crying for help
punisher wrote:
now personally i dont get into this much drama with staff since i legit only report people for aimbot
So if u want a very good tip.
Dont use that fucking /report shit in the game its pointless
go make a forum report where u can explain everything that has happened with u..
5 to 6 staff team online why i wouldnt use that? Forums are also demanding you need to fucking provide names,time of incident,what and where it happend, later on you need to provide video evidence you need screenshot if not less and that shit is time consuming. Why wouldnt staff take actions in game instead of wasting everyones time and go to forums where only few threads get the wanted atention like i posted rdm complaint it took day to be solved while someone make kill montage and mods/admins comment there and not view the complaint or appeal.
Just confirmed with a manager, I was given the wrong information about "camping in ammunation" and the actual fact is that it's allowed, lol. Ammunation is a public environment and there's multiple ammunations that you can go to, it isn't like the bank, which is unique for every city. Therefore, the whole situation between me and you could've ended early with me denying your reports, but still, I tried to make sure that your report is valid, and in the end it wasn't, but I still consulted higher staff so I can treat your report fairly. However you couldn't wait and you wanted an instant decision and decided to call me useless and insult me when that didn't happen. It's fine, you were getting killed and that's frustrating, to add to that, I killed you while you were taking out your frustration on someone you believed to be breaking rules. Completely understandable, but I would still ask you to be considerate of my stance in such situations due the fact that there's stuff that goes on behind the scenes that you're unable to see, and thus it's unfair to make an assumption about the whole team's work simply because you don't see what we're doing and if we don't reply to your report instantly, it doesn't mean we're not working on it
PS: I (we) still appreciate that you're reporting rulebreakers and encourage you to continue doing so, and remember it's all love
Astro wrote:
5 to 6 staff team online why i wouldnt use that? Forums are also demanding you need to fucking provide names,time of incident,what and where it happend, later on you need to provide video evidence you need screenshot if not less and that shit is time consuming. Why wouldnt staff take actions in game instead of wasting everyones time and go to forums where only few threads get the wanted atention like i posted rdm complaint it took day to be solved while someone make kill montage and mods/admins comment there and not view the complaint or appeal.
even if theres 10.
forums is the best way to get ur problems solved. i never report anyone ingame. if something happened i quit,gather my proof, report and wait it out. theres legit no benefit of using that /report command in the server legit none.
im just telling u the best possible way to avoid drama with staff members
the amount of times i got reported ingame.. had to talk to admins for 20 minutes to clear my self out just cuz some random new guy reported me for some dumb shit without giving out good evidence xd
Roro wrote:
Just confirmed with a manager, I was given the wrong information about "camping in ammunation" and the actual fact is that it's allowed, lol. Ammunation is a public environment and there's multiple ammunations that you can go to, it isn't like the bank, which is unique for every city. Therefore, the whole situation between me and you could've ended early with me denying your reports, but still, I tried to make sure that your report is valid, and in the end it wasn't, but I still consulted higher staff so I can treat your report fairly. However you couldn't wait and you wanted an instant decision and decided to call me useless and insult me when that didn't happen. It's fine, you were getting killed and that's frustrating, to add to that, I killed you while you were taking out your frustration on someone you believed to be breaking rules. Completely understandable, but I would still ask you to be considerate of my stance in such situations due the fact that there's stuff that goes on behind the scenes that you're unable to see, and thus it's unfair to make an assumption about the whole team's work simply because you don't see what we're doing and if we don't reply to your report instantly, it doesn't mean we're not working on it
PS: I (we) still appreciate that you're reporting rulebreakers and encourage you to continue doing so, and remember it's all love
About the situation between me and you yet you didnt get ive used /ask for explanation , and /report cuz they
fuckin abused /ammo to stay there on the ammu rooftop. In game rules acctually state that high traffic areas cant be camped such as its ammunation at come a lot. And i dont get why you got insulted for telling you that you fuck arround and you were near them.
Its not only the scenario between me and you, at the end of the day there are so many things that happen and i dont say YOU are the worm in the bad apple or whatever but some of the staff, who abuse,not handling good administation and moderation and similar stuff.
punisher wrote:
even if theres 10.
forums is the best way to get ur problems solved. i never report anyone ingame. if something happened i quit,gather my proof, report and wait it out. theres legit no benefit of using that /report command in the server legit none.
im just telling u the best possible way to avoid drama with staff members
the amount of times i got reported ingame.. had to talk to admins for 20 minutes to clear my self out just cuz some random new guy reported me for some dumb shit without giving out good evidence xd
Newbies cant provide good evidence cuz they dont know how and what to provide, but when i report i know why and what acctually im reporting because ive been there done that same as you, you know what to provide and explain when reporting or being reported to save staff the time and nerves. But sometimes they dont even wanna look through actions or crimes because they are lazy so you ve been dealing with them for 20m because of that type of stuff.
Astro wrote:
But sometimes they dont even wanna look through actions or crimes because they are lazy
You can't misjudge the entire staff team after saying this...
I didn't really want to step into this but I feel like I should provide the little amount of information I have. I am only talking about that aimboter incident Astro is telling about where the mod was chilling.
Yesterday, a suspicious aimboter cop was on and Astro messaged me if I was sus about him as well and in it's reply I asked him to contact Dani as he was the only Mod online. Astro replied that he did report the player and Dani responded as he's monitoring him while he roamed in his car 100% of the time. Not sure if there are any other ways to monitor a possible aimboter. I later asked Astro to go for his revenge and ask Dani to spectate so the mod can at least record if you can't. I don't know if Astro asked him about this or no, but this is all I know. I've been in the situation before but online staff just ask me to go for the aimboter so staff can collect/record proof and deal with it their way.
I'm not against anyone, just wanted to share why Astro is raging.
If no action taken by staff on ur reports kindly make report on forums with evidence. Video evidence always appreciate..
Why video evidence?
Bcoz it takes to much time to go one by one and check ur actions...
U can simply make a videos of ur actions logs 30min prior to incident This takes less than 2 minutes..
If u don't want to post ur action logs video on forums simply dm to staff who handling ur Report...
For more karbz will explain once he off work..
Astro So from the information I have gathered from your original post, you feel like staff members are not performing in their roles adequately and they should be put under review or their processes on how they handle situations monitored a bit closer. I'm going to be a bit more active in-game over the next few weeks, as I haven't been able to play much due to being busy with other callings outside of MCNR.
Since I'll be in-game a touch more frequently I will be reviewing staff professionalism, activity, and their conduct in-game.
win wrote:
You can't misjudge the entire staff team after saying this...
Aint no misjudgin, i just want more activity and involving from some of the staff.
stacJ wrote:
I didn't really want to step into this but I feel like I should provide the little amount of information I have. I am only talking about that aimboter incident Astro is telling about where the mod was chilling.
I'm not against anyone, just wanted to share why Astro is raging.
Yeah iam not against anyone too but i was asked for evidence if that player is aimbotting or not :/
franklyn wrote:
If no action taken by staff on ur reports kindly make report on forums with evidence. Video evidence always appreciate..
Why video evidence?
Ye thanks for explaining, but video evidence not always is what is needed for some blatants or whatever.
Karbz wrote:
Astro So from the information I have gathered from your original post, you feel like staff members are not performing in their roles adequately and they should be put under review or their processes on how they handle situations monitored a bit closer. I'm going to be a bit more active in-game over the next few weeks, as I haven't been able to play much due to being busy with other callings outside of MCNR.
Since I'll be in-game a touch more frequently I will be reviewing staff professionalism, activity, and their conduct in-game.
We are all busy with other things and real life coming to MCNR to relief stress,chill or anything we are handling in real life, most of the staff team is here volountary i know but as i said if they accepted the role let them do it propperly... Thanks for understanding and paying attention what is the root of this post and that there is no drama. Not saying only you as OM should take care bout staff's decisions but everyone should be more aware about it.
Astro
