Cops vs Robbers - balanced?

saz wrote:
Cop advantages:

- Low radar visibility (if personal car or unmarked police car)
- Free weapons on spawn (Depending a skin you choose)
- Free cars on spawn and can call free job cars (with vehicle armour already equipped which reduces headshot damage in car)
- Broken S.W.A.T skin with already insane headshot damage reduction (If in a armored car, its just unplayable)
- Cops can go suicide only losing $500 per death.(med fees now?)
- Cops don't lose weapons on death. (Criminals lose approx $50,000 per death if arrested with weapons, very balanced)
- Cops earn the most money of all activities in the server, if played right.
- Cops have arsenal that civils don't (Seasparrow,Rustler and a goddman tazer that stuns suspect for 5 seconds)

Cops disadvantages:

- Follow more strict rules.


Theres many more things that have not been brought up here, but seriously nerf cops to ground and balance the damn gameplay.

If you are a solo player, good luck going against 2 or more cops with swat skins, because most likely you are going to die. No matter how good you are their fast skin and headshot protection will carry their asses.

siuuu wrote:
bro understand 1 thing
u die as a criminial, u lost 30k worth of guns so imagine playing for like 2 hours while always dying to 2-3 cops teaming together
on the other hand cops that die while being outnumbered wouldnt give 2 fucks cause he aint losing anything except his armor
so pls tell me how is this balanced to u and to everyone that thinks cops arent op

using weapons against cops inside armored car, feels like shooting with paintball (deagle is weaker than m4 btw) (for me it seems deagle damage is randomized sometimes, shooting person from 1m does 1-5 damage, same issue goes to sniper)



especially bike, unreal how broken that is

Eightinches wrote:
Its not all about just 'power', when cops die they are treated by the state no cost, when criminals die 5k+4k bail, +3 min jailtime+10k for weapon retrieval+10k for ammo, not to mention car armours(which arent a necessity sort of..) its just way unbalanceed, andd taze kills..one taze hit = kill xd, rustlers, seasparrows, swat water tanks...

Gamers1412 wrote:
na man its like fucking 30k for ammo i wasted like fucking 5-6 million like this

[Z wrote:Thegoodfather link=topic=11189.msg59047#msg59047 date=1659884748]
I personally agree with the imbalance with the cops however buffing/nerfing guns wont help a lot in that since the cops are probably going to use the same weapons as criminals.
What I think can help is, buffing the payouts for different jobs such as medics, firefighters, prostitutes and mechanics might help and since they all have the service offering thing in common maybe adding a multiplier for the service offering streak will be nice.
For the civilians missions, some of the missions might need a bit of a work for eg, the trucking mission should be longer and from one city to another with a better payout consuming atleast of 5-7 minutes of a player's time rewarding around 6 to 7k maybe.
And lastly for the criminals, currently the bank is the only source of making decent money in the server and with the 70 players online it's nearly impossible to get a bag out of the bank, so to fix it buffing the house robberies could help like it used to be back in the day if safes had 500k in it, it used to reward like 50k at the time. Also delivering the securicar after stealing it pays out very less and you usually have to deliver it to another city so it's literally a waste. Buffing it to atleast 10-15k might help. And one last thing is allowing robbers to rob stores outside the active city might help.
How this all gonna help is simple since the 70 players we have online will be distributed in to different jobs and doing missions around the san andreas map.

Mikazuki wrote:
I agree but robbing stores  outside active city is something dumb because we wont see anyone around , i mean 50players 3cities would be a mess. If u are a cop u are not gonna drive 6km to arrest someone.

[Z wrote:Thegoodfather link=topic=11189.msg59047#msg59047 date=1659884748]
I personally agree with the imbalance with the cops however buffing/nerfing guns wont help a lot in that since the cops are probably going to use the same weapons as criminals.
What I think can help is, buffing the payouts for different jobs such as medics, firefighters, prostitutes and mechanics might help and since they all have the service offering thing in common maybe adding a multiplier for the service offering streak will be nice.
For the civilians missions, some of the missions might need a bit of a work for eg, the trucking mission should be longer and from one city to another with a better payout consuming atleast of 5-7 minutes of a player's time rewarding around 6 to 7k maybe.
And lastly for the criminals, currently the bank is the only source of making decent money in the server and with the 70 players online it's nearly impossible to get a bag out of the bank, so to fix it buffing the house robberies could help like it used to be back in the day if safes had 500k in it, it used to reward like 50k at the time. Also delivering the securicar after stealing it pays out very less and you usually have to deliver it to another city so it's literally a waste. Buffing it to atleast 10-15k might help. And one last thing is allowing robbers to rob stores outside the active city might help.
How this all gonna help is simple since the 70 players we have online will be distributed in to different jobs and doing missions around the san andreas map.

DabbingPitbull wrote:
Robbing stores outside the active city, yes, maybe. Could help spreading players across the server. But then what about when there are less players? It can be made a thing when there is a good number of players joining the server. Maybe a solution would be to give less money when robbed outside the active city or maybe only certain shops could be robbed idk.

DabbingPitbull wrote:
Robbing stores outside the active city, yes, maybe. Could help spreading players across the server. But then what about when there are less players? It can be made a thing when there are a good number of players joining the server but not as of yet. Maybe a solution would be to give less money when robbed outside the active city or maybe only certain shops could be robbed idk.