It will be good for sure but I think you should give us more information about crew system for better veiw
36Boys
The 36 Boys were a gang of primarily Turkish immigrants from Berlin-Kreuzberg. The gang was active from the late 1980s until the mid-1990s. Besides Turkish, other nationalities were also represented in the large gang.
It's not really about any specific crew, it's about their gameplay which ruins the other (not dmer's kind) of game. I don't think people are complaining about Crews, but the amount of DM in general, which unfortunately is caused by the rules. Of course, certain amount of killing will always be present, and that is alright because otherwise the game wouldn't be appealing, however certain scenarios just make me personally close the game and I know i'm not the only one.
Some people join here just to chill, yet they can't really play in peace. You can't even start trucking because some clown might come to you and kill you in order to "steal your vehicle". You as a cop can't collect tikis or do anything in public, hell, you can't even stay AFK for a few seconds inside the freaking police department because civilians are able to use guns and they made it their playground. The moment you spawn as a cop you are in danger. Anyone with a wanted level is free to kill you regardless of what you're doing.
Because of the "protecting your friend is okay" combined with the stuff i said above, cops on this server are a joke. Seriously though, no one is "scared" when they see you around. You can literally fuck around with them, pretend you have no guns let him cuff you then your 4 friends just destroy him. It makes no sense to play as a cop, for me at least. Go arrest some random on the street, anyone (closeby) can kill you and just say "hey, he's my friend". Also the cop rewards suck, I know this is out of topic, but let me just say a few quick words: most criminals are armed, meaning you lose both guns, armor, health, possibly a car, fuel and all that..and even if you win all you get is like $300 which doesn't cover up a single loss from the list above. Civilians in a single bank rob (which is super easy considering there are a dozen civilians there and cops have no chance) sometimes get like 100x the cash cop's do. Literally..I need to do 100 arrests, while some dude can just pick a free moneybag in already a empty bank and get it in like 1 minute (and for 100 arrests it takes me uhmm..dunno, you calculate it).
So uhmm tldr; rules are making this a sort of DM server, if you're going to change anything it should be that. Crews aren't really a problem, since they don't even fight each other (which is kinda the meaning of gangs, right? lol..wack leaders). Not sure what crew system brings, or how it would affect the current game, but imo crews now are fine. I'm saying they're fine because they don't do any more damage than people who play together but aren't in crews.. However, the fact that different crews team up to kill cops together..that just kills off the whole meaning of this server. What it should be is that they should kill each other in order to get a moneybag, not help each other out. Maybe consider lowering the amount of moneybags (in bank) to like 3.
Over at other CnR servers some balance exists. Of course, different servers, different features, different gameplay. However, the similarity is that both civilians and cops are balanced. This unfortunately isn't the case here. Cops are a joke and that's the reality. If you're okay with 20 civilians killing cops in bank, then consider removing the 'always arrest if the guy is unarmed'. It's entirely up to you what you want this server to be, more RPish or more DMish, but make it balanced. If civilians are free to kill anyone for petty reasons you can't burden cops with 100 rules to always preserve life when possible..it just doesn't work. This is still a relatively new server, it isn't too late to change the rules. Blame the players, honestly.. We wouldn't be here bitching if the players didn't push us to. I know this is kind of a long "tldr", but cba editing it..I just wanted to share my opinion.
So basically, if you want to lower DM, you should change the rules. No more protecting friends UNLESS they are in your car thus in danger. No killing over petty reasons, like wanting ur car(since they can just spam F to take it away) or killing cops based on the color of your nametag.
Or, if you want to keep the above, let cops kill criminals instead of arresting them. Boost their pay, maybe toss in some better weapons or cars with more hp so they actually stand a chance. It probably won't be enough, but it's a start. Oh right, also remove the ability for gang members to change to cops so they can't just bail their friends out.
Hey the only thing i want (others as well) chat for my crew! And base for us only crew members can go and houses no one can attack this base no wars with others the idea of having crew is that nothing else having wars with others is useless because it's DM i am not afraid of having wars with others. In my opinion I need this
-Chat (ranks added color chat etc)
-base for crew and 30house(max)
-points for robbing bank together.
That's it wars aren't needed.
nxy wrote:
i know the implication here, this whole thread was made only because of WT and AC theres no other crews that cause problems really but let me tell you something
whats the hesitation though?Its not like the crew system will give any kind of advantage to crews in game the only thing im assuming the crew system will do is just simply make stuff easier between crew members and so people know who is in which crew.I dont know what the crew system looks like but i genuinely think that it should get added despite of these 2 crews because theres no downside at all.Punish the people that cause problems, dont penalize everyone just because of 2-3 people who actively break rules and are known names to the administration.
There was other gangs before you came around here that caused problems. Believe it or not AC and WT are not our first rodeo with this.
I completely agree with chuppy
What I couldn't explain, he placed perfectly.
I have to say that having a crew system is nice but it isn't meant for this server because the main focus is "Cops and Robbers" and I feel like allowing crews is defeating that purpose. Plus allowing crews to be able to kill someone else because their friend got attacked is also allowing more of a reason to dm someone who didn't even attack you in the first place, but your friend. It isn't fair to allow that to happen and than it leads to an ongoing fight where a whole crew can take revenge on one person and than no one is happy. Plus, it's only created problems and people are forgetting that this is not a dm server or a gang server. I feel like by allowing this type behavior to happen that we have attracted a lot of dmers recently who don't seem to care to read the rules about what this server really is about and it's purpose. I don't want to see this server turn into a dm server like some of the others and we need to be more strict with the rules and take away the whole crew system. This server was was doing great even before we allowed people to create crews. It will still continue to be a success even if we take the crew system away.
As for those getting offended and thinking this post is directed toward the WT and AC crews that is not true at all. We had other problematic crews way before those two were created, so don't take offense and think this is directed to a certain crew, this post goes for all the crews. So, as for my opinion I think we should forbid it and get rid of it because I feel like it's only creating problems and making it harder to enjoy the game. We were fine before without it and we will be fine without it now. People will still hang with their friends so it won't make a difference by removing it, because at the end of the day, there is just a "fancy" tag in someone's name. I don't want players to forget that this is a "Cops and Robbers" server and not a Deathmatch one. Anyway, whatever you decide to do, we will be here either way.
So, I gladly got an example of how it is daily on the server playing as a cop... I mean I can get that it's fun to play with friends or make groups, but shit like this is what makes you not want to play as a cop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvyAKVmzb0Y&
Dis-allowing the protection for friends might dig the way out of this violence, 1vs1 often turns into a 8v8 just because of protection of your friends. you get a problem, you deal it yourself, everybody fights for themselves only. For the crew system, please let it be added, eliminating violence causing crews can be helpful and effective.
xo
Removing a crew isn't going to solve anything it'll make the gameplay more boring.
As for people who are crying to remove crew system are either cops who have tried to arrest us and failed miserebly or the player who have tried to kill us When we were MW.
I've seen a lot of ppl coming up with utter lame excuses to make crews look bad lol. Not our fault if we play together.
We mostly chill together and kill cops together when they come to us. Not that we hunt the cops by chasing them.
Still i never supported the ones who broke rules before and i never will. Therefore who breaks the rule should be punish by staff it's as simple as that.
Solid wrote:
So, I gladly got an example of how it is daily on the server playing as a cop... I mean I can get that it's fun to play with friends or make groups, but shit like this is what makes you not want to play as a cop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvyAKVmzb0Y&
why u still coming to us dude if we were 3 what u want its weird also you can create your own cop crew/group.
36Boys
The 36 Boys were a gang of primarily Turkish immigrants from Berlin-Kreuzberg. The gang was active from the late 1980s until the mid-1990s. Besides Turkish, other nationalities were also represented in the large gang.
why do they call it cops n robbers wen theres no dm its like the cops always win how can u tell robbers not to kill people 🙄 🙄 ??? ???
Well, dear Reonz I'm not a sweaty tryhard, I'm quite casual, so I don't want to make a crew and then end up not being even online as the leader.
And getting together a forceful cop group with randoms is quite impossible and since you were wanted, I either let you guys all go, or I take the chance and try and do at least something.
But this video isn't meant to be a diss or anything in this context.
It's simply here to show as a whole how it is playing as a casual cop when there are crews around. I can not be chasing after you, I could've been standing around and you three would pull up and shoot me, doesn't really make a huge difference, or I could've gone to the bank to deposit my money and you three would come out.
benjamin wrote:
why do they call it cops n robbers wen theres no dm its like the cops always win how can u tell robbers not to kill people 🙄 🙄 ??? ???
Cops chase robbers.
Robbers rob money from players, houses, banks etc.
Robber runs, cop chases. - That's COPS AND ROBBERS
Whilst shootouts should be a decently occurring thing, the gamemode isn't focused around just shooting and killing, that's what deathmatch is for.
Deathmatch - a mode of play in which the aim is to kill the characters controlled by other players.
Here the aim is to arrest them.
Solid wrote:
Cops chase robbers.
Robbers rob money from players, houses, banks etc.
Robber runs, cop chases. - That's COPS AND ROBBERS
Whilst shootouts should be a decently occurring thing, the gamemode isn't focused around just shooting and killing, that's what deathmatch is for.
Deathmatch - a mode of play in which the aim is to kill the characters controlled by other players.
Here the aim is to arrest them.
Cause you followed us bro and why dont we shot cop if hes in our behind? if you were 3 or 4 you could kill us mate. Is your wish whole server should play alone? bro sorry but its weird. And cops are not guilty? more than half cop always camping br and killing unarmed players.
36Boys
The 36 Boys were a gang of primarily Turkish immigrants from Berlin-Kreuzberg. The gang was active from the late 1980s until the mid-1990s. Besides Turkish, other nationalities were also represented in the large gang.
Reonz wrote:
Cause you followed us bro and why dont we shot cop if hes in our behind? if you were 3 or 4 you could kill us mate. Is your wish whole server should play alone? bro sorry but its weird. And cops are not guilty? more than half cop always camping br and killing unarmed players.
I literally understood a good 5 words out of that.
I know why you killed me, I'm not saying you did anything wrong.
I'm just adding to the topic for Mike to see how it feels right now to play as a cop when there's a crew online.
And report the dumb cops if they shoot unarmed
