Bikes rework

Cap vehicle HP to 1000 (not able to buy armor)
Add shooting forward (literally everyone agrees in this except Mike)
Buff bullet proof tires for bikes to 50 HP

In this way we encourage a more aggressive play style for bikers since it's a one man vehicle and we reduce his HP to balance it a little.

Tires are the main area of a bike to disable it. No one shoots the body of the bike

BrainDeadFartSniffer wrote:
Tires are the main area of a bike to disable it. No one shoots the body of the bike

You can allways shoot the driver instead

Vicio wrote:
Cap vehicle HP to 1000 (not able to buy armor)
Add shooting forward (literally everyone agrees in this except Mike)
Buff bullet proof tires for bikes to 50 HP

In this way we encourage a more aggressive play style for bikers since it's a one man vehicle and we reduce his HP to balance it a little.

The issue with this is you can find some poor bastard driving along in his car (by himself) and you can use say, an NRG to blast thousands of mp5 shots that are auto-aimed at him that he cannot avoid or prevent. And if he's on foot (after you violently and quickly destroy his vehicle) you can both run him over and shoot him with rapid mp5 auto-aimed shots and kill him in a few seconds. Mike is right about this because having the ability to shoot forward ruins car chases and is even worse than the player's current ability to shoot sideways (because in a chase with a car and a bike, you can prevent someone from driving alongside you).

Also, two bikes chasing each-other have no defense (you can't shoot backwards), so it would just make anyone chasing anyone else super OP.
Additionally, having very powerful tire armor would make a bike OP against cars with multiple players in them as well. (your bike has a small hitbox, high damage output, and no gas tank)

Remove armor for bikes (or limit to 1200 hp) + remove ability to apply (super) bullet resistant tires. Then add forward facing driveby. Else no

BeatEn wrote:
Remove armor for bikes (or limit to 1200 hp) + remove ability to apply (super) bullet resistant tires. Then add forward facing driveby. Else no

agreed to this

basedSkeleton wrote:
Additionally, having very powerful tire armor would make a bike OP against cars with multiple players in them as well. (your bike has a small hitbox, high damage output, and no gas tank)

Bikes have gas tank, players can fall from the bike + car players are almost allways teaming, how is a bike driver supposed to defend himself against a car passenger doing db?

Vicio wrote:
Bikes have gas tank, players can fall from the bike + car players are almost allways teaming, how is a bike driver supposed to defend himself against a car passenger doing db?

With a bike passenger doing db?
Obviously 4v2/3v2 is always going to be unfair for the bike user, but... the same applies for cars as well so that's pretty much irrelevant. Bikes also have the advantage of being fast (and small). I've had car chases where a bike goes through a small opening that a car cannot fit through.

-1, Forward shooting is too much op, it blows the car in extremely fast way before someone can exit the car.

+1, Bullet tires should be given 50HP.