More possibilities to damage vehicle driver and passengers

Currently vehicles are overpowered battlemachines that are nearly impossible to counter on foot. They have ridiculously high defence (latest 50% increase was a joke, on normal servers vehicles take 300% more damage than players, value is correct), passengers have no recoil for their weapons, driver can shoot auto-aiming UZI at ridiculous fire rate (and without recoil of course).
Furthermore, you can't really damage a driver since the only hitbox that driver has is his head and this is what my suggestions is about.
I suggest that if a player shoots vehicle's door, bullet penetrates this door and the one who sits in a car next to that door takes damage. Let's say for realism sake this damage is reduced by 50% if the vehicle is armoured.

For Mike: I don't know how this can be done, but I know that it is in your power since you somehow made detection on fuel tank being shot.

-1, overpower like combat shotgun.

Behemoth wrote:
overpower like combat shotgun.

Is this unrelated random set of words even supposed to mean something?

Kittycatmur wrote:
Is this unrelated random set of words even supposed to mean something?

Common sense, if you can aim then ofc you can shoot the driver for sure if not practice. Still -1 you are right in db's we all dont have recoils. (Theres no overpowering there since we all had the advantage) its not our problem nor mike that you cant do shit man. Heres an advice for you just get 1 sultan or a copcar and get 3 cops along with it and play an everyday cop like you used to do/ BE.

Behemoth wrote:
Common sense, if you can aim then ofc you can shoot the driver for sure if not practice. Still -1 you are right in db's we all dont have recoils. (Theres no overpowering there since we all had the advantage) its not our problem nor mike that you cant do shit man. Heres an advice for you just get 1 sultan or a copcar and get 3 cops along with it and play an everyday cop like you used to do/ BE.

You're really not the one who should tell me to practice, just don't man...
If anyone had such good aiming that he could outdamage driver that is roaming around and shooting/ramming and was able to kill driver before driver kills him, then such a pro better should go and play CS:GO and make some $ millions at tournaments, I guarantee there would be no match for him. You specificly are not anywhere near such power, I asume that you're just afraid that if vehicles become less OP, then your value as a player will be downgraded to a complete newcomer.
You are correct, I can get a sultan full of cops, but I just don't want it. I want some good and interesting PVPs on foot, not this redicilous shit with cars you call "fights".
Cars are meant to move your ass from point A to point B, not help you to kill players you are 10x times worse without even sweating.

Behemoth wrote:
Common sense, if you can aim then ofc you can shoot the driver for sure if not practice. Still -1 you are right in db's we all dont have recoils. (Theres no overpowering there since we all had the advantage) its not our problem nor mike that you cant do shit man. Heres an advice for you just get 1 sultan or a copcar and get 3 cops along with it and play an everyday cop like you used to do/ BE.

holy shit... theres no possible way.. ur the one telling people to get good and shit, like are u actually being serious ? man u legit cant aim for shit on foot... u just db the living shit out of the people or just go ahead and play like a little bitch to gain some kills lmao.. i mean https://youtu.be/j-cRnxegWN8
0:46 to 0:55 my man re- entered a car mid 1v1.
1:59 again dbing... cant win a fair fight
2:27 bro legit cut the part where he dbed for 10 minutes straight and just threw a moli once i destoryed his car.. ( i had 40 hp) and he still needed to throw a moli
just more proof that this dipshit really cant do shit expect playing unfairly..

Like i said.. the only true way to balance playing against people who are to scared to go on foot is by buffing the m4 dmg now i know this wont help survive against people who are only dbing in a 4v1  but still... it will help alot in 2v1s.. since ofc most of the people dbing 24/7 are just horrible players.

Sounds like a dm server thing to me, well you i guess you are right about me but the thing is im using my brain, i play it smart its not my problem if you gals cant handle such sneaky and tricky moves that i used so be like mike said "get gud".

Behemoth wrote:
like mike said "get gud".

Like I said before, if being good means dbing 24/7, then I would rather stay bad.
Mike may not know what is going on on mcnr, but you do know. And still are voting against balancing things because afraid of losing power. It's your right of course, but please do not tell me to practice or become good, because I already am. I can play like you with "sneaky smart" dbing, but I will not enjoy it.

-1 as vehicles can easily get shot down faster with the latest update plus cops have sea sparrows so stop crying and grow up

BehindYou wrote:
-1 as vehicles can easily get shot down faster with the latest update plus cops have sea sparrows so stop crying and grow up

Player hp: 200. Damage taken from M4: 7.0
Amount of M4 shots to kill: 200/7.0=29

Armoued car hp: 1750. Damage taken from M4: 9
Amount of M4 shots to destroy: 1750/9=195. Amount of M4 shots to finish off the driver: 29, sums up to 224 in total.

I'm not even counting the fact that driver in a car uses not M4, but UZI with much higher DPS and accuracy.

Now, does it seem "faster" to you?
Funny thing, an ungraduated kid tells me to grow up. Go learn some maths perhaps. I wonder why you brought up cops again, guess they already caused some mental problems in your health.

And your mentioned flying coffin sparrow with speed compared to a roller-skater is a joke.

Nothing wrong with the mathematical reasons.
Problem is that cops already are OP. They have rustler and sea sparrow giving instant death to criminals like myself.
If you want a change. Focus on cop/criminal balance rather changing script values.
And yeah your an idiot yourself acting tough on forums. Go make some friends and team up with your buddy's and I am pretty sure owner has better things to do than see yourself crying like a little rat.

BehindYou wrote:
Nothing wrong with the mathematical reasons.
Problem is that cops already are OP. They have rustler and sea sparrow giving instant death to criminals like myself.

Why are you even talking about cops? This suggestion is nothing about cops. It won't make rustler/sparrow any stronger, it's all about fight on foot vs a vehicle, criminals fight each other too, crew wars might be much funnier without OP cars, it's not all about cops in this game.

BehindYou wrote:
Go make some friends in a game

😀 😀 😀

Give this man a minigun to dominate the server bro, Maybe he got bullied so hard by the players bunny hop doesn't works now perhaps ?

Obsidian wrote:
Give this man a minigun to dominate the server bro, Maybe he got bullied so hard by the players bunny hop doesn't works now perhaps ?

Unskills get so angry when you suggest to nerf the only thing they can get at least some kills with  😆

The only thing which needs to be done is increased damage against cars to like 125% of player's damage. Not some fancy mechanics which were never seen in samp before.