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Suggestion to balance between cops and suspects.

ShocKWavE Ex-Staff · 469 posts
Its been highly annoying already when you are fighting cops and they taser suspects while in a fight and they kill you instead of arresting you.
I've been facing this problem from they day I started playing on the server. I thought one day someone would make a suggestion about this, but my bad luck no one cares to put a slight effort trying to make a post for some improvement. Finally I gave up my lazy ass and decided to make this post.

https://youtu.be/rQF_9Nvq0TU

To balance this, make it necessary for cops to arrest the suspect if he's being taser-ed and make a suitable punishment for this rule-breaking.
A cop can shoot suspects if he breaks free from the cuffs and try to run(only if he's a threat). According to the logic if  player is taser-ed, he's unconscious and cannot shoot, which makes him a non-threat so no cop must not be allowed shoot him.

Looking as a cop, Its too hard to arrest a non-threat suspect while on foot chasing him all the way, if our taser misses it helps suspect get away. And to be honest literally about 70 percent non threat suspects are being killed instead of arrested and no one ever gets to know about this.

I would suggest that if a suspect keeps running, then cops must be allowed to shoot him down.
howl Ex-Staff · 1,320 posts
this is just a dick move with tasing someone and then head-butting them with a rifle.

I have no clue what's gonna happen, if you try to breakout of prison, and try to entirely escape the cops from their PD spot, but you'll be taken down by a group of cops, and you'll be sent back to jail, will it break the game or no?
Domingo Ex-Staff · 959 posts
I don't really like this idea. Yeah, I understand it's a 'bitchy' move, but everyone who's trying to arrest a suspect inside the bank, it's almost impossible since no one is able to survive. You're always teaming up with somebody (multiple players), and after he starts to arrest you, he would be done. I was trying to arrest people at the bank when I started to play as a cop, it was only a nice try, because while I was cuffing I got headshotted immediately.

This could be only fair if, while cuffing, cops get spawn-protection so they can't be killed while arresting. I guess it would be easier if it stays the same.
Astro Original Gangster · 591 posts
Not a good idea. Its a "bitchy move" yes. I did use tazer 3 times while you drained my armor+ health which leading to what if you break cuffs ?Shootin me down again ? Its a cop advantage to taze and what happens next its onto the cop to decide either he arrests or kill you. I would give -1 to this one
parisisnthuman Original Gangster · 565 posts
Literally anything that results in protection in this server causes abusing from some certain players and its hard to control so why add more abuse tools and annoy people who are targeted by it. actually if theres a cop trying to arrest people and there are tons of cirminals around he wouldnt want even one of them get that protection because the stun helps the takedown to be easier. and as everyone says dont go solo always keep a buddy near you for these situations.
hes word.


https://youtu.be/gWsl4ASCi3w
ShocKWavE Ex-Staff · 469 posts
Astronaut wrote:
Not a good idea. Its a "bitchy move" yes. I did use tazer 3 times while you drained my armor+ health which leading to what if you break cuffs ?Shootin me down again ? Its a cop advantage to taze and what happens next its onto the cop to decide either he arrests or kill you. I would give -1 to this one


Does it even makes sense? Imagine cops stun a suspect in real life and then kill him lmao. Rules clearly said that you cannot shoot or kill a non threat, and since the player is stunned he is a non threat due to which he should not be killed. And also you cannot just kill people assuming that they will break free and kill you, either you don't try to arrest them and kill them instead at the first place or if you have stunned them, then you should go for arrest.
RazaDaAli55 Donator · 334 posts
ShocKWavE wrote:
Does it even makes sense? Imagine cops stun a suspect in real life and then kill him lmao. Rules clearly said that you cannot shoot or kill a non threat, and since the player is stunned he is a non threat due to which he should not be killed. And also you cannot just kill people assuming that they will break free and kill you, either you don't try to arrest them and kill them instead at the first place or if you have stunned them, then you should go for arrest.

what if that so called "non-threat" broke the cuffs himself and started to shoot that drained cop, cops hardly have advantages these days so i'd go for a -1 there would be no chance for killing some dude that is better in shooting they should have a bit of advantage atleast, they've been enforced into strict rules already and especially in bank there are mostly 3+ criminals whats the point of fighting against 3 criminals if youve got no advantage at all and theyre all better at shooting

ShocKWavE Ex-Staff · 469 posts
RazaDaAli55 wrote:
what if that so called "non-threat" broke the cuffs himself and started to shoot that drained cop, cops hardly have advantages these days so i'd go for a -1 there would be no chance for killing some dude that is better in shooting they should have a bit of advantage atleast, they've been enforced into strict rules already and especially in bank there are mostly 3+ criminals whats the point of fighting against 3 criminals if youve got no advantage at all and they're all better at shooting


If you have brought this up saying that they "hardly get any advantages" then you might wanna know that there always a bunch of cops camping outside the bank about 8/10 times. And clearly very less or nothing is being done to get this in control. Cops are just warned to leave their place like 100 times a day and they keep repeating it + this is happening from months.
howl Ex-Staff · 1,320 posts
and the fact that you called this "imagine getting stunned in real life", I doubt they would even come up and shoot again lmao

non-threat only applies when the suspect has no gun visual towards the cop, because, if so, then that makes him auto-threat, since he's dangerous to that cop, that is specified in real life matters aswell
Solid Enforcer · 155 posts
Both sides have their points.
I believe if there's more then one criminal around it should be allowed to taze and headshot.
If it's a one on one situation, if the cop manages to pull a tazer shot off, it should be their priority to arrest first, shoot second.



Sasino97 Donator · 250 posts
I believe the cop should use their discretion to decide, based on the aggressiveness of the suspect.
In many cases, they don't kill the tased criminal just for fun, but to prevent the criminal shooting them back if the cuffing fails.

#FreeCuba
DepressedKid Street Soldier · 78 posts
ye +1 for this one most of aimboters use this method as cop and they taze and they kill u without single care . if suspected is being tazed (armed) shouldnt be killed if he got him uncuffed he can be attacked again so like i said +1
ShocKWavE Ex-Staff · 469 posts
There is one more big enough reason why it should be fixed. About 90 percent of cops are abusing taser with Aimbot.

This is one hell of an example how they actually abuse it. cops mostly go for taser and arrest since they have aimbot on and all the need to do is shoot a suspect one time and he's gone. it gives them opportunity to use taser with aimbot as much as they can and it hits suspect every time + since they do not use weapons so their aimbot is almost impossible to be detected.

https://youtu.be/a_mj1Xtpg6E

Idk how somebody even says that this wasn't aimbot.

And this time he had a clear chance to arrest me instead of killing me since I already broke the cuff once, I could not do it again so early.
BorisminMilk Enforcer · 242 posts
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Astronaut wrote:
Not a good idea. Its a "bitchy move" yes. I did use tazer 3 times while you drained my armor+ health which leading to what if you break cuffs ?Shootin me down again ? Its a cop advantage to taze and what happens next its onto the cop to decide either he arrests or kill you. I would give -1 to this one