RE: Set fps limit to 144

UltraSmooth wrote:
Instead of giving 1 year old reply, can you mention what's wrong in the reply? We all know why you left Staff but it will be good if you showcase atleast some good behavior on forums.

Regards,
Munna
PD Chief
SAALCA Division
Office no 6. San Andreas Police Department, P.O. 82712

UltraSmooth wrote:
What you trying to convey from the video? All I can see is you shooting in air?

Atleast post when is what FPS so we can see the difference between.

Mike's point is valid that higher FPS do let you reload and move faster(you can simply set your fps limit to 50(average player FPS) and set your FPS limit to 120), definitely, you will see you walking/reloading/aiming more faster and it gives you more advantage.

So make a video but in such way that viewer can see what you're trying to convey.

Regards,
Munna
PD Chief
SAALCA

Cashewz wrote:
Are you retarded?

hanhwd2024 wrote:
Guy who reset the whole server for no apparent reason is worried that increasing fps cap by 14 will break the game. I would like to understand the thought process of the individual in question. I support this suggestion but a certain guy having red name on the forums does not have the required brainpower to comprehend what is written here.
To Munna, you have never once stepped out of your swat water tanker to shoot a single bullet, your core gameplay is based on killing criminals by making a team of bajillion people and then spamming the chat about your bravery. You have absolutely no idea what (dis)advantage will come from increasing the fps cap.
If the reason for denying this is "it will break the game and give people unfair advantage" then shouldn't the same be applicable on ping related (dis)advantages? Surprisingly no one says anything there, because the guy with the red name lacks the required EQ and IQ for this, maybe someday.

Regards,
hanhwd2024,
San Andreas Banned Player Forces,
SABPF

UltraSmooth wrote:
Regards,
Munna
PD Chief
SAALCA Division

Red_DragoN wrote:
Have you been officially diagnosed with autism or we're the first to find out

UltraSmooth wrote:
What you trying to convey from the video? All I can see is you shooting in air?

Atleast post when is what FPS so we can see the difference between.

Mike's point is valid that higher FPS do let you reload and move faster(you can simply set your fps limit to 50(average player FPS) and set your FPS limit to 120), definitely, you will see you walking/reloading/aiming more faster and it gives you more advantage.

So make a video but in such way that viewer can see what you're trying to convey.

Regards,
Munna
PD Chief
SAALCA

hanhwd2024 wrote:
Guy who reset the whole server for no apparent reason

Mike wrote:
The this that is apparant is that you can't read or don't know how to (or are too lazy to) find information.
This topic clearly explains (yet without technical details) about why the reset happened, if you care to read it: https://mikescnr.com/tgr



I will state this all for the billionth time like I did on Discord but in a place where it won't get buried as easily:

GTA SA is designed to run at 25 FPS on the PS2. It was badly ported to PC. A lot of the logic and physics are FPS-based.

High FPS breaks many things. Some give you advantages. Some of the things that get broken the higher your FPS is include but are not limited to:
- Slower swimming/boat speed
- Helicopters start up faster
- Can't take off in a Skimmer
- Potential to shoot/reload/animate at a faster rate (but only at very high FPS)
- Can push cars on foot more easily, like they weigh nothing
- Vehicle sirens can't be toggled as easily (pretty much impossible at extremely high fps)
- I believe vehicle vs player damage (ramming) is affected, however this is handled by the script anyway, so is irrelevant

The reason an FPS cap was introduced was to ensure players can't exploit it for an advantage.
I originally wanted to set the FPS cap at 60 - even at that framerate bugs and advantages occur. I then backed down and settled for allowing 120 fps - it is set to 130 to allow a margin for error.

I know the increase from 130 to 144 is only 14, however it's actually 120 to 144 we're talking about (a 24fps increase), as the intended limit is 120 not 130.
I honestly do not think most players will notice a difference above 60fps. I REALLY don't think anyone will notice a 14 or even 24 fps increase. If your game is choppy at 120fps you have other problems. You need to tweak your graphics/display/both settings. VSync exists for a reason.

The more people complain about the FPS cap, the more I want to lower it.
If I had it set at 30 or even < 60, I could understand the complaint, but honestly I would love to prove you wrong that you can notice a significant difference between 130 and 144.

That all being said, I try to be fair, I try to listen to feedback, so I will.
I will create a poll on Discord for this. If, after a week, there is over 80% of votes in favour of it, I will concded and increase the limit to 145 (1 fps margin of error for 144fps).
That being said, it will still remain subject to change in the future.

If there's over 70% of votes in favour, I will consider further.

Mike wrote:
High FPS breaks many things. Some give you advantages. Some of the things that get broken the higher your FPS is include but are not limited to:
- Slower swimming/boat speed
- Helicopters start up faster
- Can't take off in a Skimmer
- Potential to shoot/reload/animate at a faster rate (but only at very high FPS)
- Can push cars on foot more easily, like they weigh nothing
- Vehicle sirens can't be toggled as easily (pretty much impossible at extremely high fps)
- I believe vehicle vs player damage (ramming) is affected, however this is handled by the script anyway, so is irrelevant

punisher wrote:
excuse me sir Dont disrespect the chief police of the las venturas department. this message is a warning for u and i hope u dont repeat that mistake.


Regards,
Punisher
PD Sergeant
SAALCA

Devils wrote:
not my fault if other players are too poor to run this old ass game