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Mikazuki wrote:
u knew u were wrong u sold your house when we told u to then u got mad for some reasons and left without answering the question

Check this out:

[04:26:23] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: just because u reported the bug doesnt mean you get less harsher punishments

[04:26:28] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: ur lucky im not deleting ur account

[04:26:30] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: sell this house now

[04:26:36] You last visited this property {FFFFFF}58 minutes ago{6270B3}.

[04:26:37] Property trash level: {FFFFFF}0.00%{6270B3}. Type {FFFFFF}/maid{6270B3} for maid job.

[04:26:39] Time: {FFFFFF}Friday 20:00    {33CCFF}Weather forecast: {FFFFFF}Cloudy

[04:26:50] Property {FFFFFF}1 State Road{6270B3} sold to Avery Properties for 75% value ({FFFFFF}$2,014,148{6270B3}).

[04:27:04] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: we bought ALL of our houses by grinding

[04:27:04] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:27:07] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: pls check stats

[04:27:17] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: the transactions dont say so

[04:27:21] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: you have another house right?

[04:27:26] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: what transactions please show me

[04:27:26] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:27:40] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: we were grinding for 9h 45m 30s

[04:27:40] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:27:45] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: brother, dont make this hard

[04:27:50] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: i dont wanna start deleting more accounts

[04:27:55] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: do you have another house yes or no

[04:28:01] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: yes i got

[04:28:01] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:28:04] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: farm house right?

[04:28:07] Mikazuki (35){FFFFFF}: if u lie about having only 2

[04:28:10] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: yes

[04:28:10] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:28:11] Mikazuki (35){FFFFFF}: idk what to say

[04:29:39] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: @{FFFFFF}Cashewz (16){FFFFFF} are you going to make me sell all of my houses earned by grinding?

[04:29:48] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: you did not grind lol

[04:29:52] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: how

[04:29:52] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:29:55] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: well, its your fault for bug abusing

[04:29:57] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: we can see the logs

[04:29:58] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: you and nieth

[04:30:00] Mikazuki (35){FFFFFF}: abusing isnt grind

[04:30:03] Mikazuki (35){FFFFFF}: i worked for my cash

[04:30:05] Mikazuki (35){FFFFFF}: u didnt

[04:30:05] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: dont try, we have all the logs

[04:30:22] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: wheres your house again?

[04:30:24] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: the 'THING' was done exactly when you asked us

[04:30:24] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:30:24] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: the other one

[04:30:35] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: where was your other prop

[04:30:50] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: ok

[04:30:50] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

[04:30:57] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: wheres your other property

[04:31:00] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: you can delete them yourselves

[04:31:00] Heard by Cashewz (16), Mikazuki (35).

I sold one house because I thought Cashewz wanted to be a bit more strict about the punishment, but when he told me to sell all of them, I knew that was just unfair so I just quit and didn't listen to people like you.

Ardealul wrote:
Did you watch the video? He did the house thingy after 11h of play. And also i'm sure he felt like it was getting help for daily objectives.
Also, i added this to the report.

Update:
Ok, so we clear something out. This bug was not like the scrap bug. Why? Because people been doing this for ages. Let's say you got the prostitute daily objective, or any other daily objective that people can help you do, because i helped people do their objectives before, i compare daily objectives with this because it's the same, you do it one time, you finish it, and you can't do it again, not as an exploit where you sell the car over and over again to generate ridiciolous amounts of money. The people that did this tought it's the same. My mind also got there. Niovie did not really knew he's bug abusing. That's one of the reasons i'm making this. So after 11h of work to get your whole account wiped away seems kinda harsh. Also, Cashewz, he /q because he felt it unfair that you did that to him, because i repeat myself, he did not feel/knew it's a bug abuse.

Damn so much also.
Also, how do you know he did?

i see u dont know nothing

Niovie wrote:
Check this out:
I sold one house because I thought Cashewz wanted to be a bit more strict about the punishment, but when he told me to sell all of them, I knew that was just unfair so I just quit and didn't listen to people like you.

u said u had 2houses which was a lie

Niovie wrote:
Check this out:
I sold one house because I thought Cashewz wanted to be a bit more strict about the punishment, but when he told me to sell all of them, I knew that was just unfair so I just quit and didn't listen to people like you.

"you are lucky I'm not deleting your account" Mike you should realise that your staff members initially kicking players from MCNR forever. A server without players is same as cemetery without visitors. If shits like this continues you gonna be sad for your own server

Ardealul wrote:
Cashewz did good, yes, people who bought houses from this should have the houses taken away, just not for him, he grinded his money, the first thing he did, taking some money from him feels like the right thing to do, idk why he changed his mind, maybe i lack some information. We'll wait and see.

To make it abundantly clear:

The point is, all of Niove and Neith’s houses need to be given back to them, but it is impossible if players that are not tipped off by admins bought one of their properties. Example is in your video, Eriiis is a current owner of one of their properties, and refuses to return the property, assuming he wasn’t tipped off by staff to buy that property, then that house can’t be refunded to make it fair to Eriis.

In that case, reset houses like Cashewz’s castle, can be used in its place, assuming that castle was bought with exploited cash, otherwise HeHe keeps it.

Mikazuki wrote:
u said u had 2houses which was a lie

You both know how many houses I had at that time. Why make fun of players?

Also let me show you more proof, which should clarify that we had these houses before the "thing".

Everything is on Discord.

When we started reselling the houses for the achievement:


When Cashewz started asking questions (we were pretty much done by then)



And my question to all of you, how we could've bought these rare props in 10 minutes?

I had these houses
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/19
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/153
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/1081
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/629

Nieth had these:
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/363
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/152
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/155
https://properties.mikescnr.com/property/view/25

Ryder's, OG Loc's and these 2 farms are very very rare.

3:54 AM GMT +2 (see discord pictures) means it's been like 12 hours since the reset. In 12 hours, all of these properties would've been bought by any other players because of their rarity.

My previous post shows that by 10:51 GMT +2, I already had them.

Mikazuki wrote:
u said u had 2houses which was a lie

Because you made an unethical threat to him to sell his houses, ofc he does not want to do that, he fealt threat. Kinda similar to what happend to fap, isen't it?

Mikazuki wrote:
i see u dont know nothing

Then prove he finished the objective before, bought the houses, and then just sold and bought houses one after the other just for fun. Does that make sense? Enlighten us, tell us what happend. Otherwise, you're just lying as a staff member. Moderator also. Bad boi.

Ardealul wrote:
no "flicks" in that clip, only on the ones i send you. The clip i got reported for was db.
Also, how is this a shit thing? You stated as a moderator, which is a big role, that he made all his properties with with bug abuse money. I proved with what i could it was a false statement. If you can't prove otherwise, your move is to apologise for spreading false information. Also, i send you 3 videos that contained flick shots and 2h later your friend and crew member that's on my ass says that? A little sus, ain't it? The db clips had no flicks, i did not post anything else to the public.

Exactly, whatever “internal discussion” that happened, it was led with false context. They kept changing their minds, shit is fishy. Especially with Mikazuki refusing to give the farm back in your discussion with him on discord.

Myself117 wrote:
Exactly, whatever “internal discussion” that happened, it was led with false context. They kept changing their minds, shit is fishy. Especially with Mikazuki refusing to give the farm back in your discussion with him on discord.

Lol thanks for watching the video, I think only a few did. Even tho it's shitty quality, it states alot.

Mikazuki wrote:
u said u had 2houses which was a lie

You’d be surprised how many people are afraid of authority. An admin questioning you, will be perceived as a threat alone and the person being questioned won’t feel comfortable even though they are innocent. You knew how many houses they had, and they knew that you knew, plus you hinted it to them. Doesn’t take a genius to use the website to see how many they had.

Myself117 wrote:
Ardealul I wonder if HeHe bug abused to get Cashewz castle, if so, then that castle should now be owned by either Neith or Niove or anyone like them who were a victim of staff greed.

Otherwise, if HeHe also bought Cashewz’s castle without using bugged money, then he should be given that back. Cashewz Mikazuki

Dem0n and i(Hehe) played straight for 8hours(16 combined) and got that castle of cashewz and a hilltop farm house with legitimate money, after that we still had 3.2millions(combined) left in our wallets. That so called "bug" was performed by us after we bought those two houses. And with that bug money we got 4million, which made a total of 7.2million in our wallets. So after that so called "bug" we bought other three houses which were rare af, no doubt. But as we didnt know it will be considered as bug abuse, we bought them and also this achievement been part of the system since it has been launched. Also, dem0n and i never hid anything from cashewz, we never lied and we admitted we did it. Nothing was hidden and no lies were told. And we told cashewz that if its considered as bug, you can roll back our progress to the point where we didnt have that bugged money. And at that point we had "Cashewz's castle" and "Hilltop farm house" and 3.2million cash in wallets.

If this is considered as bug abuse, then you should keep in veiw that there were players with 100+ millions in game before the reset and im pretty sure they also had this achievement done. Dont know how they did it but still they had it completed. Also there is no mentioned way of doing it. We're supposed to complete the achievement in anyway we can, and if its not right then you should make a rule at this point, not just vanish our accounts completely. Because this is the first time it was discovered by staff and it should be announced first what should be done regarding it. Not just delete accounts only because you need your castles back lol.

And about this mikazuki, he's just a wT doggie who helped wT getting as many rare houses they could, because i know pretty well how much Don is ambitious about owning the richmen neighbourhood. Cashewz removing cash was alright and thats what we all wanted but this mikazuki recommended him to reset/delete accounts and in the moment of haste, cashewz did it which was the harshest punishment that one could get. And only reason behind mikazuki recommending this was to get as many castles in richmen as they could. Right after the reset, they bought all those houses asap. It proves alot of shit thats going on inside.

And if you guys need me to prove that we bought Cashewz's castle and hilltop farm house with legitimate money, let me know. I have a little recorded video of buying it and few screenshots in which time is really noticable and any staff member can dig logs and check if those houses were bought with legitimate money or not. And about other three houses which we bought with bugged money, you had right to remove them but still 3.2million in that was legitimately made. Dm toobi on discord if you need any kind of evidence or you wanna talk about anything related to this stuff.

Myself117 wrote:
To make it abundantly clear:

The point is, all of Niove and Neith’s houses need to be given back to them, but it is impossible if players that are not tipped off by admins bought one of their properties. Example is in your video, Eriiis is a current owner of one of their properties, and refuses to return the property, assuming he wasn’t tipped off by staff to buy that property, then that house can’t be refunded to make it fair to Eriis.

In that case, reset houses like Cashewz’s castle, can be used in its place, assuming that castle was bought with exploited cash, otherwise HeHe keeps it.

Two of the houses were legit, 3.2m in hands was legit. After the "so called bug abuse: we bought "Chemosphere" on dem0n's, bought a pool house on mine and bought the hill house behind "cashewz's castle" . And we were ready to sell those houses and get that bugged money removed from our accounts, but no Cashewz just wanted his castle back lmao.

Edit:
Properties we had before the bug money:
1.
2.

Properties which we bought after "so called bug" :
1.
2.
3.

This is solid proof that with my "freshly new account" I was able to make about $8,419,859 (according to the CASHMAN achievement which btw now it's fixed) in 15h 13m 10s of $playtime, and trust me or not, this time I didn't always grind.

https://youtu.be/Xx0kSNjCejU

Also please take in consideration the fact that almost every reward is doubled, means you if get $50,000 out of something, you are actually rewarded with $100,000.

My houses back then cost like $4,468,700 so it's certainly possible.

Cashewz and Mikazuki , next time before you guys accuse anyone of using 'exploit' money to buy houses AND reset their accounts for it, get your facts right and learn the game.

[04:29:39] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: @{FFFFFF}Cashewz (16){FFFFFF} are you going to make me sell all of my houses earned by grinding?

[04:29:48] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: you did not grind lol

I have also proved in my last post that I had these houses prior the 'exploit'.

And for anyone who calls this a bug and hasn't written a single line of code in his life to create a computer program, personally I'd call this, as Mike said: "unintended behaviour to get cash/score in an unfair way".

I deeply apologise and I am taking full responsibility for it. However, the punishment itself as said many times, was rough. Money was taken from us the first time as a punishment and that was it. Minutes later, because Cashewz used his 'manager' experience to do more digging, and "advised" by Mikazuki, he thought that we've used the money to buy all of our houses which is NOT true, then proceeded to reset our accounts. I've proved everything.

Niovie wrote:
This is solid proof that with my "freshly new account" I was able to make about $8,419,859 (according to the CASHMAN achievement which btw now it's fixed) in 15h 13m 10s of $playtime, and trust me or not, this time I didn't always grind.

https://youtu.be/Xx0kSNjCejU

Also please take in consideration the fact that almost every reward is doubled, means you if get $50,000 out of something, you are actually rewarded with $100,000.

My houses back then cost like $4,468,700 so it's certainly possible.

Cashewz and Mikazuki , next time before you guys accuse anyone of using 'exploit' money to buy houses AND reset their accounts for it, get your facts right and learn the game.

I have also proved in my last post that I had these houses prior the 'exploit'.

And for anyone who calls this a bug and hasn't written a single line of code in his life to create a computer program, personally I'd call this, as Mike said: "unintended behaviour to get cash/score in an unfair way".

I deeply apologise and I am taking full responsibility for it. However, the punishment itself as said many times, was rough. Money was taken from us the first time and that was it, then because Cashewz used his 'manager' experience to do more digging, and "advised" by Mikazuki, he thought that we've used the money to buy all of our houses which is not true, then proceeded to reset our accounts. I've proved everything.

He never digged the logs, he just wanted his castle back and he got it that way. Community with managers that abuse their powers for unfair means. And its not first time that cashewz did something unfair like this. He's got history of generating money for 1337 crew aswell. He's the real oG in this thing xDDDDDDDD