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Myself117 wrote:
To make it abundantly clear:

The point is, all of Niove and Neith’s houses need to be given back to them, but it is impossible if players that are not tipped off by admins bought one of their properties. Example is in your video, Eriiis is a current owner of one of their properties, and refuses to return the property, assuming he wasn’t tipped off by staff to buy that property, then that house can’t be refunded to make it fair to Eriis.

In that case, reset houses like Cashewz’s castle, can be used in its place, assuming that castle was bought with exploited cash, otherwise HeHe keeps it.

Two of the houses were legit, 3.2m in hands was legit. After the "so called bug abuse: we bought "Chemosphere" on dem0n's, bought a pool house on mine and bought the hill house behind "cashewz's castle" . And we were ready to sell those houses and get that bugged money removed from our accounts, but no Cashewz just wanted his castle back lmao.

Edit:
Properties we had before the bug money:
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Properties which we bought after "so called bug" :
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This is solid proof that with my "freshly new account" I was able to make about $8,419,859 (according to the CASHMAN achievement which btw now it's fixed) in 15h 13m 10s of $playtime, and trust me or not, this time I didn't always grind.

https://youtu.be/Xx0kSNjCejU

Also please take in consideration the fact that almost every reward is doubled, means you if get $50,000 out of something, you are actually rewarded with $100,000.

My houses back then cost like $4,468,700 so it's certainly possible.

Cashewz and Mikazuki , next time before you guys accuse anyone of using 'exploit' money to buy houses AND reset their accounts for it, get your facts right and learn the game.

[04:29:39] Niovie (43){FFFFFF}: @{FFFFFF}Cashewz (16){FFFFFF} are you going to make me sell all of my houses earned by grinding?

[04:29:48] Cashewz (16){FFFFFF}: you did not grind lol

I have also proved in my last post that I had these houses prior the 'exploit'.

And for anyone who calls this a bug and hasn't written a single line of code in his life to create a computer program, personally I'd call this, as Mike said: "unintended behaviour to get cash/score in an unfair way".

I deeply apologise and I am taking full responsibility for it. However, the punishment itself as said many times, was rough. Money was taken from us the first time as a punishment and that was it. Minutes later, because Cashewz used his 'manager' experience to do more digging, and "advised" by Mikazuki, he thought that we've used the money to buy all of our houses which is NOT true, then proceeded to reset our accounts. I've proved everything.

Niovie wrote:
This is solid proof that with my "freshly new account" I was able to make about $8,419,859 (according to the CASHMAN achievement which btw now it's fixed) in 15h 13m 10s of $playtime, and trust me or not, this time I didn't always grind.

https://youtu.be/Xx0kSNjCejU

Also please take in consideration the fact that almost every reward is doubled, means you if get $50,000 out of something, you are actually rewarded with $100,000.

My houses back then cost like $4,468,700 so it's certainly possible.

Cashewz and Mikazuki , next time before you guys accuse anyone of using 'exploit' money to buy houses AND reset their accounts for it, get your facts right and learn the game.

I have also proved in my last post that I had these houses prior the 'exploit'.

And for anyone who calls this a bug and hasn't written a single line of code in his life to create a computer program, personally I'd call this, as Mike said: "unintended behaviour to get cash/score in an unfair way".

I deeply apologise and I am taking full responsibility for it. However, the punishment itself as said many times, was rough. Money was taken from us the first time and that was it, then because Cashewz used his 'manager' experience to do more digging, and "advised" by Mikazuki, he thought that we've used the money to buy all of our houses which is not true, then proceeded to reset our accounts. I've proved everything.

He never digged the logs, he just wanted his castle back and he got it that way. Community with managers that abuse their powers for unfair means. And its not first time that cashewz did something unfair like this. He's got history of generating money for 1337 crew aswell. He's the real oG in this thing xDDDDDDDD

In one of the conversations it's said that they checked the logs, they never did that, we got our accounts deleted in less than 20minutes after the bug was reported while Cashewz and Mikazuki  were talking to Niovie on my side they never asked anything just deleted the account with no questions asked, for sure we were scared knowing Mikazuki has a grunge against us because we keep messing around with members (while respecting the servers rules) so him there, after Cashewz made the first punishment meant he had something to do with it.

We know for a fact that members have been tipped, looking at the properties you can see that our 2 houses in Ganton have been bought by a member from Niovie farm also and my house in Mulholland and the other farm and house was probably out of reach after spending 4,5m in less than 10minutes.

Our accounts had a value of 11.8m total with the so called "bug", bug that as everyone knows gives you 4m for 2 people and it can't be recreated, after the math is done everyone can see that our prop were worth 7.5-7.6m and we had 200k left that have been used for the "bug".

NiethVDA wrote:
In one of the conversations it's said that they checked the logs, they never did that, we got our accounts deleted in less than 20minutes after the bug was reported while Cashewz and Mikazuki  were talking to Niovie on my side they never asked anything just deleted the account with no questions asked, for sure we were scared knowing Mikazuki has a grunge against us because we keep messing around with members (while respecting the servers rules) so him there, after Cashewz made the first punishment meant he had something to do with it.

We know for a fact that members have been tipped, looking at the properties you can see that our 2 houses in Ganton have been bought by a member from Niovie farm also and my house in Mulholland and the other farm and house was probably out of reach after spending 4,5m in less than 10minutes.

Our accounts had a value of 11.8m total with the so called "bug", bug that as everyone knows gives you 4m for 2 people and it can't be recreated, after the math is done everyone can see that our prop were worth 7.5-7.6m and we had 200k left that have been used for the "bug".

Same thing, our total worth before the "so called bug" was around 6.3million(2.6m for cashewz's castle, 420k for hilltop house and 3.2million in hand) and after the "so called bug" we had around 10.3million worth of cash and bought the last three houses which are mentioned above.
P.S: First two houses were bought before we executed the "so called bug" and we still had 3.2million.

HeHe wrote:
He never digged the logs, he just wanted his castle back and he got it that way. Community with managers that abuse their powers for unfair means. And its not first time that cashewz did something unfair like this. He's got history of generating money for 1337 crew aswell. He's the real oG in this thing xDDDDDDDD

"since this is a player based server speaking freedom must be given to all or mcnr will be getting reported on particular authorities for leaking ips,+got proof more than enough."

Cashewz where did your manners go since you're a manager youu kept talking like a philosopher but fr u proved yourself that you're a slave of some brainded groups leave the staff and do a real life smuggling job instead of doing that here

why am i mention ?

i aint reading and listening to your squeeky ass voice

PezeR wrote:
why am i mention ?

i aint reading and listening to your squeeky ass voice

Then don't comment.

Mike Karbz phase 1 of fixing this is to tell Mikazuki and Cashewz to do the right thing and return the properties they currently have to their rightful owners.

Once phase 1 is completed, then phase 2 should start, and that’s the only tough part Mike and Karbz should investigate WT members who own the majority of the reset houses, if they were tipped off, they need to have ownership revoked and whoever leaked to them in private about the houses getting reset/accounts getting deleted soon should take responsibility however that may be.

In phase 2, if no one was tipped off or if unable to conclude such thing happened, then all properties which can’t be refunded should have their cash value refunded (probably times 2 or 3).

Myself117 wrote:
Mike Karbz phase 1 of fixing this is to tell Mikazuki and Cashewz to do the right thing and return the properties they currently have to their rightful owners.

Once phase 1 is completed, then phase 2 should start, and that’s the only tough part Mike and Karbz should investigate WT members who own the majority of the reset houses, if they were tipped off, they need to have ownership revoked and whoever leaked to them in private about the houses getting reset/accounts getting deleted soon should take responsibility however that may be.

In phase 2, if no one was tipped off or if unable to conclude such thing happened, then all properties which can’t be refunded should have their cash value refunded (probably times 2 or 3).

Returning them to players who have completed an achievement with an unintended way that gained them even more cash so they could sell houses/other items for even more profit in the future? You either must be being paid for to say this or are trolling, there's no way "return them to their original owners"

The people who had completed that achievement with that specific way clearly had something to do in mind with the dirty money they'd receive in the future. Why are we all acting as if this isn't a big deal? lmfao it legit is crazy to me

Its uknown wrote:
"since this is a player based server speaking freedom must be given to all or mcnr will be getting reported on particular authorities for leaking ips,+got proof more than enough."

Cashewz where did your manners go since you're a manager youu kept talking like a philosopher but fr u proved yourself that you're a slave of some brainded groups leave the staff and do a real life smuggling job instead of doing that here

If you really have nothing good to say I'd suggest not commenting anything, way to go off speaking about someone's "manners" when you talk like that yourself

HeHe wrote:
we bought "Chemosphere" on dem0n's,

Then why is Chemosphere on Blizz owning?

Cashewz wrote:
Returning them to players who have completed an achievement with an unintended way that gained them even more cash so they could sell houses/other items for even more profit in the future? You either must be being paid for to say this or are trolling, there's no way "return them to their original owners"

The people who had completed that achievement with that specific way clearly had something to do in mind with the dirty money they'd receive in the future. Why are we all acting as if this isn't a big deal? lmfao it legit is crazy to me

First, to put your mind on ease, and get it out of the way, I am not trolling nor getting paid to say this.

Do you acknowledge the context of which Neith and Niove were punished on is false? When you stated they did not grind, but they actually did? I’d like to know why you went straight to assumption, because that approach was horrible.

It’s not a big deal because it never happened and you can’t see the future, hence can’t claim further punishment on something that might have happened. Hence, the punishment should’ve stopped at cash reset, along with any properties/profit made from exploited cash as needed.

Nothing justifies taking away legitimate bought properties, unless they bought properties with exploited cash and were not cooperative in selling them.

You and Mikazuke need to give up your properties to their rightful owners. It’s simple, but guess it’s very hard to do the right thing Cashewz

To add, assuming you respond. I recall Kraken made a report on 1337 generating limitless money through exploiting an old house system, that now no longer implemented thanks to them. Can you please or anyone shed some light on what were the punishments?

Two entire different situations, but just curious if some people did not lose their properties. Cashewz

HeHe wrote:

And if you guys need me to prove that we bought Cashewz's castle and hilltop farm house with legitimate money, let me know. I have a little recorded video of buying it and few screenshots in which time is really noticable and any staff member can dig logs and check if those houses were bought with legitimate money or not. And about other three houses which we bought with bugged money, you had right to remove them but still 3.2million in that was legitimately made. Dm toobi on discord if you need any kind of evidence or you wanna talk about anything related to this stuff.

Please post your proofs here, I am interested, so would Cashewz