Let cops spawn all police vehicles.

abeabe wrote:
I wasn't saying I cant chase bullets with the basic vehicles you keep missing my point.
I use my personal bullet\infernus in any case anyways but I'd prefer using the pursuit ones because of their police additions ( Siren, Lights )

Could clarify the cops too, instead of 2 randomly colored sultans , 1 black one with a siren vs a colored one.

I'd honestly argue to not add this if the vehicles in the server weren't as accessible but they are and its fine.

Have you ever seen all of the country's cops using pursuit vehicle every time? Please use pursuit vehicles always from Police Departments. Just imagine how the server will look if everyone uses pursuit vehicles. Please imagine. It'll look like stupid and would be unfair for SOME peeps who will be using other slow vehicles. And many time, I always see new cops are always use cop's vehicles to chase suspects until they grow to level 100 and rank 10 cop. After reaching these levels, they won't use cop's vehicles. They'll watch criminals and wait for a chance to gang bang them with a Sultan.

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Have you ever seen all of the country's cops using pursuit vehicle every time? Please use pursuit vehicles always from Police Departments. Just imagine how the server will look if everyone uses pursuit vehicles. Please imagine. It'll look like stupid and would be unfair for SOME peeps who will be using other slow vehicles. And many time, I always see new cops are always use cop's vehicles to chase suspects until they grow to level 100 and rank 10 cop. After reaching these levels, they won't use cop's vehicles. They'll watch criminals and wait for a chance to gang bang them with a Sultan.

Common sense bro, if I'm those guy who spawn own infernus or sultan to chase criminal, I've to pay for the recovery fee. But what if I could spawn pursuit unit? I would love to spawn pursuit unit rather than spawning my personal vehicles.

Question is, do you want cops roam around with own vehicles or pursuit unit? You can't expect rank 10 S.W.A.T guy to ride in police car, that doesn't match at all. Maybe you doesn't understand the point but please, do not compare IRL with games.

Flyburger wrote:
Common sense bro, if I'm those guy who spawn own infernus or sultan to chase criminal, I've to pay for the recovery fee. But what if I could spawn pursuit unit? I would love to spawn pursuit unit rather than spawning my personal vehicles.

Question is, do you want cops roam around with own vehicles or pursuit unit? You can't expect rank 10 S.W.A.T guy to ride in police car, that doesn't match at all. Maybe you doesn't understand the point but please, do not compare IRL with games.

Ask Mike why he rejected this suggestion before.

Doesn't mean he would reject this immediately after the explaination.

Flyburger wrote:
Doesn't mean he would reject this immediately after the explaination.

Its his choice. idk wht will hap

No reason to not add this to high rank cops it's no difference from a normal high speed vehicle.

And please stop comparing your real life to a video game it's really stupid.

abeabe wrote:
And please stop comparing your real life to a video game it's really stupid.

Tell this to Mike. He also added a thing which will make us to fall from cars that isn't a feature in any of the SA-MP servers maybe. Mike added it for some 'sense and some reality'.

Found something that was answered by Mike for this type of thing...

Mike wrote:
I am in favour of allowing cops to request a pursuit vehicle through the interaction menu but I don’t think a separate class is needed for this.

The problem is restrictions. If cops can call for a pursuit unit from anywhere why would they ever use normal cop cars again? I don’t want the server to only have cops in black sports cars because it would look silly.

One option could be to charge the cops to request one of these vehicles but people have that much money it doesn’t really matter.

Another option is that it could be time limited. Maybe you can only request a pursuit unit once a day and if it gets destroyed you have to wait 24 hours to call another or something.

Another option is giving pursuit units a disadvantage over normal cop cars. They have a speed advantage but no other disadvantage to balance it out. Perhaps you can’t drop spike strips from them or they don’t shoe crime reports/checkpoints?

As I said I don’t want every cop on the server driving around a black Infernus. It wouldn’t play well. Perhaps the vehicle you request is random so you might get a slower vehicle actually. If there’s a choice why would you not choose the Infernus?

There’s a reason I only added 3 pursuit units to each city (super, sports and bike). It makes them extra special. Surely 3 cops on the server all with high powered vehicles is enough to chase down 3 individual suspects? It’s not like the server has 100 suspects that all need pursuing..

I don't think that's a good suggestion beacuse cops can come to bank even quicker, that is a bad thing if you're robbing alone.

you can already spawn a vehicle, even after it blows up..giving cops yet another spawn command would be even more ridiculous than it is now (gta isnt even a thing on this server)

as for "cops should be driving cop cars", well not really..not unless you remove all the fast vehicles from the game and that clearly won't happen.

also stop comparing everything with real life..this is a video game, wake up.

As I said I don’t want every cop on the server driving around a black Infernus. It wouldn’t play well.

every criminal on the server is driving an infernus or a cheetah, it's only fair that cops do the same (and they do, cos after a bit of grinding you can finally afford one to keep permanently). I mean sure we can't drop spikes from our personal infernus but that still isn't enough of a reason to use a slow ass lvpd car instead.
The whole personal vehicle spawning thing is what makes every free car on the road (including pd garage) useless and there's really no way to "balance" it now.

It's whatever, if Mike sees something we don't, For me it's gonna be the same anyways, I'll still keep spawning my personal vehicles.

Allow cops that have reached a certain level, to spawn pursuit vehicles from the police menu.
This is because most good criminals use fast sports cars all the time, and most cops that use their
own personal vehicles instead of police vehicles probably have a negative income, because cops don't
earn enough money to repair their car every 10 minutes.


I know I already suggested this on GitHub and it was rejected, but I would like to see if the community supports this.

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So in addition to my previous GitHub post, I've noticed this thread is basically being requested and rejected pretty frequently,
even though most people are positive towards the idea; I think Mike should really consider it, or adding at least few handful of
those pursuit vehicles, such as the Buffalo and Sultan which are realistic for police use, and actually pretty common.


Police Dodge Charger

Cops being able to spawn pursuit vehicles from the cop menu without any restrictions will give cops an unfair advantage over criminals. The argument that most good criminals are driving fast sports cars also applies to cops. Most good cops are driving their fast sports cars catching the good criminals along with the newbie criminals.

However, if cops could spawn pursuit vehicles, it should be done at current city's PD for a price instead from the cop menu.

Lancerb1 wrote:
Cops being able to spawn pursuit vehicles from the cop menu without any restrictions will give cops an unfair advantage over criminals. The argument that most good criminals are driving fast sports cars also applies to cops. Most good cops are driving their fast sports cars catching the good criminals along with the newbie criminals.

However, if cops could spawn pursuit vehicles, it should be done at current city's PD for a price instead from the cop menu.

But why would it be an advantage, if cops are already using their own personal Infernus or Bullet!? The only difference here
would be that they will have sirens and lights.

I'm neutral about the suggestion but OMG that charger looks sexy AF.... Anyways, i do agree with both sasino's and lancerb's post and can't decide whom to support. I'll go neutral on this one. Maybe add a few more pursuit vehicle spawns at PD garages? As far as I know there are only 3 vehicles that spawn's there, adding 2 more (just an example) might be helpful I guess.

I've already suggested that, https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,5517.0.html

Pursuit spawns should have cooldown, price and level restriction to every type. If you implement all of these, I can't think of a reason not to add this.

5 Stars anyday.