People always complain when a weapon can rival or counter the sawn/uzi, even though sawn/uzi is already OP and widely used without complaints. Every fight is situational: at close range, sawn/uzi dominates, while at medium range a combat shotgun can beat it if used smartly. Instead of asking for nerfs, players should adapt — use a sniper, get close, or play around the weapon’s strengths. The combat is actually balanced as it is.
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Its long range damage distance could probably be toned down a bit, the weapon imo is fine as it is. So many players out there that aren’t particularly good at combat in this game will find weapons like these suitable for them to have a chance to fight back
You nerf every other weapon and it’ll just be a sawn uzi warfare again, as if that combo isn’t op enough already -1
Should also note that this is a great weapon to utilize as a solo player against groups
this community is dying anyways plus god forbid if anyone wants to use something other than this braindead sawn/uzi meta

sixstars. wrote:
People always complain when a weapon can rival or counter the sawn/uzi, even though sawn/uzi is already OP and widely used without complaints. Every fight is situational: at close range, sawn/uzi dominates, while at medium range a combat shotgun can beat it if used smartly. Instead of asking for nerfs, players should adapt — use a sniper, get close, or play around the weapon’s strengths. The combat is actually balanced as it is.
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It's not a rival, you're getting melted by newbies. There is no competition. If a newbie who sucks at sawns can melt you with one weapon, it means that shit needs to get nerfed. Also this aint counterstrike so you counterstrafe, this is a game where you're moving to dodge bullets. Imagine a duel with combat vs combat where the dude who shot first wins. And yes, the spread is big enough to not require precise aim to win. Also the reload is fast af and it has 7 shots compared to sawn which has 4. Let people 2shot if this shit aint getting nerfed.
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Jimmy wrote:
It's not a rival, you're getting melted by newbies. There is no competition. If a newbie who sucks at sawns can melt you with one weapon, it means that shit needs to get nerfed. Also this aint counterstrike so you counterstrafe, this is a game where you're moving to dodge bullets. Imagine a duel with combat vs combat where the dude who shot first wins. And yes, the spread is big enough to not require precise aim to win. Also the reload is fast af and it has 7 shots compared to sawn which has 4. Let people 2shot if this shit aint getting nerfed.
why are you not asking for a sawn damage nerf then lmao
parisisnthuman wrote:
why are you not asking for a sawn damage nerf then lmao
Wdym? All i said was against combat. Check the videos, it's not ok to get melted like this by some new players with 0 movement nor weapon swap not aiming good.
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Yeah definitely should be nerfed.
U can shoot anywhere near another player and still hit headshots or deal great damage.
U cant truly miss with it and it damages a lot from long range.
Nerf it. +1
Jimmy wrote:
Wdym? All i said was against combat. Check the videos, it's not ok to get melted like this by some new players with 0 movement nor weapon swap not aiming good.
sawnoff has the same damage values basically if you consider how much time it takes for you to shoot 4 shots
Its a way too overpowered, they just come and spam their combat, stun also give them some advantage, definitely +1
parisisnthuman wrote:
sawnoff has the same damage values basically if you consider how much time it takes for you to shoot 4 shots
Wanna test ig only sawns vs only combat? (No 2 shits and other things)
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Cashewz wrote:
Its long range damage distance could probably be toned down a bit, the weapon imo is fine as it is. So many players out there that aren’t particularly good at combat in this game will find weapons like these suitable for them to have a chance to fight back
You nerf every other weapon and it’ll just be a sawn uzi warfare again, as if that combo isn’t op enough already -1
Should also note that this is a great weapon to utilize as a solo player against groups
Check the videos. It got buffed, you did not play in some time.
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+1
How great it is to be absent yet present, rather than to be present yet absent.
sixstars. wrote:
People always complain when a weapon can rival or counter the sawn/uzi, even though sawn/uzi is already OP and widely used without complaints. Every fight is situational: at close range, sawn/uzi dominates, while at medium range a combat shotgun can beat it if used smartly. Instead of asking for nerfs, players should adapt — use a sniper, get close, or play around the weapon’s strengths. The combat is actually balanced as it is.
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I totally agree with six here. It also lessens the skill gap between the new and old players and gives new players a chance to fight back.
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Bear. wrote:
I totally agree with six here. It also lessens the skill gap between the new and old players and gives new players a chance to fight back.
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Why would you lessen the skill gap if they are just bad? Not seems fair for some players to just give noobies a gun that melts and requires 0 skill. Also we got to a point that me and blazeit need to fucking hide behind a wall to fight in a 2vs1 vs a newbie because he has combat and we got sawns? Then buff sawns at the point that if you headshot it you do full armor and 50% hp. Not fair for us.
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