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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2021, 12:42:30 pm »
Just take away the whole vehicle. Cops have rustlers and seasparrows, what do criminals have? vehicles and guns? how is that even fair? we have no air support when it comes to shooting back in a dog fight in the sky, remove seasparrows, and have rustlers be used by crims and cops. More fun that way, and more dog fights :)

Agree, make Rustler accessible by any Criminals and remove Seasparrow just like Hydra.
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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2021, 04:19:10 pm »
Just take away the whole vehicle. Cops have rustlers and seasparrows, what do criminals have? vehicles and guns? how is that even fair? we have no air support when it comes to shooting back in a dog fight in the sky, remove seasparrows, and have rustlers be used by crims and cops. More fun that way, and more dog fights :)
Rustlers are almost impossible to be used in inner cities unless you are a ghost to fly through buildings.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2021, 08:29:41 pm »
Rustlers are almost impossible to be used in inner cities unless you are a ghost to fly through buildings.

not really, it takes an unique skill to just not crash around, somebody's good at it, someone's not.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2021, 11:31:48 pm »

i changed my opninion on it, since players start abusing its features already.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #64 on: January 31, 2021, 03:31:22 pm »
Just take away the whole vehicle. Cops have rustlers and seasparrows, what do criminals have? vehicles and guns?

Cops are supposed to have superior equipment, they're cops and they get state funding. Especially in the GTA world, where it's Murica and cops are running amok with tanks n' stuff. People need to get that the CnR genre already puts too much power into the hands of criminals to maintain a parity that doesn't exist and barely will in the real world. With that said, the Sea Sparrow perk is easily convertible into a disadvantage. People have already laid out how this chopper can be shot out of the sky for good. I have personally tried using it on a well-organized group and it didn't end well when they got out of their vehicle and spread out across an uneven terrain while shooting at me from the ground and from rooftops. And they didn't even snipe me out of the cockpit, like others have experienced.

we have no air support when it comes to shooting back in a dog fight in the sky
Not true either. Any helicopter can be used to down any other one. All you need to do is get on top of it and squeeze its blades from above.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2021, 10:24:35 pm »
Not true either. Any helicopter can be used to down any other one. All you need to do is get on top of it and squeeze its blades from above.
You must be really dumb lmao, this matchup is HEAVILY seasparrow favoured, it can easily maneuver due to it being lightweight and flying to a cop while being a warrant in a helicopter is already basically considered as suicide.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 12:10:57 am by cynosy »

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2021, 11:11:41 pm »
+1 from me,

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2021, 04:12:18 am »
Please refrain from commenting +1 to farm posts, if you have nothing relevant to say.


Cops are supposed to have superior equipment, they're cops and they get state funding. Especially in the GTA world, where it's Murica and cops are running amok with tanks n' stuff. People need to get that the CnR genre already puts too much power into the hands of criminals to maintain a parity that doesn't exist and barely will in the real world. With that said, the Sea Sparrow perk is easily convertible into a disadvantage. People have already laid out how this chopper can be shot out of the sky for good. I have personally tried using it on a well-organized group and it didn't end well when they got out of their vehicle and spread out across an uneven terrain while shooting at me from the ground and from rooftops. And they didn't even snipe me out of the cockpit, like others have experienced.
Not true either. Any helicopter can be used to down any other one. All you need to do is get on top of it and squeeze its blades from above.

what are you on about xD It's a game not real life. most of the things we do in this game isn't even in real life. we just need to balance the field for criminals and cops. 1 will have advantage over the other in some aspects I agree to that, but it shouldn't be land air and water??? like come on. The  only reason why cops just don't feel strong, is because they are never grouped in numbers like the criminals are, and that's there problem for not teaming up with other cops. when cops team up together and go in sets of vehicles they become strong and powerful. They have the power to disable your movements for a few seconds which is alot, and then cuff you and be unable to move if you can't unbreak the cuffs.

Give criminals a way to fight in the air with rustlers, and see how things balance out.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2021, 09:41:08 am »
+1 from me its so annoying
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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2021, 10:03:50 am »

Give criminals a way to fight in the air with rustlers, and see how things balance out.
Criminals would dominate the sky, shoot down police helicopters/Seasparrows for no reason when they are flying near them or shooting police vehicles and thats not how its supposed to work. IT should be the opposite. You are a petty thief that got a gun in his hand and used it to commit a crime to get money illegally, that is not a job. A police officer is law, making sure you are not commiting crimes is his job and he is provided a vehicle and a gun to do his job as a job benefit.

How many people are still not getting it? There is nothing to balance out, criminals cant have dominance against COPS! Only stall them out until the heat goes off, how do you think singleplayer works? The more stars you get the more stuff goes after you. Cops, swat, fbi, military with TANKS.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #70 on: February 01, 2021, 03:50:35 pm »
THIS IS  NOT A DM SERVER.
adding such a overpowered thing like seasparrow. makes it a DM server.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #71 on: February 01, 2021, 09:01:19 pm »
Just take away the whole vehicle. Cops have rustlers and seasparrows, what do criminals have? vehicles and guns? how is that even fair? we have no air support when it comes to shooting back in a dog fight in the sky, remove seasparrows, and have rustlers be used by crims and cops. More fun that way, and more dog fights :)
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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #72 on: February 01, 2021, 11:45:55 pm »
This server had a tank hydra and hunter

Tank Hydra and Hunter were removed due to overpowerd.

Now players crying seasparrow
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 11:54:02 pm by Jarppa »

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2021, 12:12:19 am »
This is not a Team deathmatch server to talk in the terms of fair battles, its cops and robbers, and cops must have superior equipment.
meanwhile cop skins have damage reduction built in them

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2021, 08:30:47 am »
meanwhile cop skins have damage reduction built in them
Because they have kevlar vests that have better protection than the ones you normally can buy at ammunitions.
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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2021, 01:56:34 pm »
Agreed with what's said above, Crims should have accessed to rustler. as for sea sparrow remove it :/ it's just cancerous

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2021, 03:35:33 pm »
If the majority is against the removal of this broken laser helicopter, then add a special criminals weapon only, minigun.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2021, 04:13:09 pm »
If the majority is against the removal of this broken laser helicopter, then add a special criminals weapon only, minigun.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2021, 11:36:20 am »
what are you on about xD It's a game not real life. most of the things we do in this game isn't even in real life. we just need to balance the field for criminals and cops. 1 will have advantage over the other in some aspects I agree to that, but it shouldn't be land air and water??? like come on. The  only reason why cops just don't feel strong, is because they are never grouped in numbers like the criminals are, and that's there problem for not teaming up with other cops. when cops team up together and go in sets of vehicles they become strong and powerful. They have the power to disable your movements for a few seconds which is alot, and then cuff you and be unable to move if you can't unbreak the cuffs.

Give criminals a way to fight in the air with rustlers, and see how things balance out.

This isn't a TDM project, where there can be a parity in power established. This is a CnR. Criminals are by definition supposed to be weaker, but resourceful & discreet enough to escape a prolonged direct fight. Otherwise it's just team red against team blue, where team red almost always gets to attack first because of regulations regarding use of force.

How many people are still not getting it? There is nothing to balance out, criminals cant have dominance against COPS! Only stall them out until the heat goes off, how do you think singleplayer works? The more stars you get the more stuff goes after you. Cops, swat, fbi, military with TANKS.

I am not in favor of tanks, especially since singleplayer doesn't feature the kind that has the authority to shoot at the criminal, and allowing tanks here runs a huge risk of them being abused. Plus the cop AI back in singleplayer is pretty basic and even tanks can be neutralized in seconds if one knows how, so the only way the criminal can really be overwhelmed is by sheer numbers. With that said, criminals really shouldn't have dominance against cops in terms of firepower. Speed, authority to use force — anything but power. The whole point of criminality is doing crime and getting away with it — not doing crime, fighting the entire city's law enforcement as an equal, and wreaking havoc on the streets in the process. Any country that would allow that in one of its most populated regions would be a failed state. The military would be called in to deal with the rampant seditious behavior. There can be no "level playing field" in this genre. I have a nice little collection of TDM servers to share if you want to enjoy the playing field there, but CnR just isn't that.

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Re: Remove cop seasparrow
« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2021, 09:21:26 am »
the car you can spawn and respawn now has 2000hp, you have guns, you have armor and you have legs to run and dodge the shots.

this isn't needed