Author Topic: Charge a fee for certain unbans  (Read 942 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Rated 5 times

Offline WAP

  • *
  • Posts: 354
  • Country: kp
  • Respect: +20/-10
  • Gender: Other
  • mike i've changed it 4 times now
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: WAP
Charge a fee for certain unbans
« on: December 20, 2023, 03:16:30 pm »
« Last Rated on: December 22, 2023, 02:28:23 am »
Inspired by:
I will make a one time donation to mike for my indescretions and Wish to rejoin the communiy and make ammends for my mistakes. It's been a long time and I ask for one more chance. to prove myself. I miss you guys! and I really have changed. and matured. I am so sorry for everything I have done in the past.

I'm not saying this should apply for every single ban on MCNR, only where appropriate. For example, if a player is banned for 6 months, they can reduce their ban by paying a 'fine'. Again, if a player is permanently banned, at the discretion of staff, they could pay a 'fine' to get an unban.

Pros:
* Extra revenue for Mike & MCNR
* Players are unlikely to rulebreak again if they have to pay for unbans
* Acts as both a punishment and deterrent
* Also acts as compensation to the MCNR community for rulebreaking
* May reduce amount of stupid and painful to read unban requests

Cons:
* Creates a conflict of interest between Mike & players
* Players from certain countries may not be able to afford an unban
* Players with a lot of disposable income may not give a fuck and rulebreak continuously, then unban continuously
* Could lead to chargebacks (Instead of using Paypal+Stripe, use Square as they do not charge a chargeback fee)



Cyberbullying, racism, and homophobia is unacceptable in 2024. Please report users for saying n*gger and f*ggot to the internet police here.

Offline WAPs_Wife

  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Country: gb
  • Respect: +1/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • Buster
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: WAPs_Wife
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2023, 03:24:00 pm »
Cons: surely nobody is actually sad enough to pay real money for an unban

Offline Ralsei

  • Banned
  • Weirdest Femboy 2022
  • *
  • Posts: 1092
  • Country: se
  • Respect: +32/-164
  • Gender: Female
  • герой
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: Ralsei
  • Discord name: ralsiel
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2023, 03:27:04 pm »
+1

Offline Clo

  • *
  • Posts: 79
  • Country: ma
  • Respect: +4/-2
  • Boomer
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: [RsA]Clo
  • Discord name: anekrif
  • Crew: RsA
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2023, 03:34:35 pm »
+1,mike will get rich

Offline WAP

  • *
  • Posts: 354
  • Country: kp
  • Respect: +20/-10
  • Gender: Other
  • mike i've changed it 4 times now
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: WAP
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2023, 03:37:51 pm »
Cons: surely nobody is actually sad enough to pay real money for an unban

hun you underestimate the sadness of the MCNR community



Cyberbullying, racism, and homophobia is unacceptable in 2024. Please report users for saying n*gger and f*ggot to the internet police here.


Offline BeatEn

  • *
  • Posts: 778
  • Country: in
  • Respect: +22/-39
  • Gender: Male
  • run d ice wallow come
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: beateN
  • Discord name: BeatEn#5416
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2023, 03:45:44 pm »
how is this not equal to paying for using cheats?

Offline WAP

  • *
  • Posts: 354
  • Country: kp
  • Respect: +20/-10
  • Gender: Other
  • mike i've changed it 4 times now
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: WAP
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2023, 03:49:38 pm »
https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,8566.msg40885.html#msg40885

https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,7336.0.html

I didn't see this, but I get why staff don't like the idea of reducing unbans.

Still, there's some players that can't get away from MCNR and WILL evade their bans. When they evade their bans, they treat their accounts as temporary and WILL rulebreak and ruin the experience for players.

This would reduce the amount of 'dickhead' ban evaders as they can regain access to their account legitimately, whilst paying a 'fine' which would deter them from rulebreaking again, whilst compensating MCNR for their BS.

how is this not equal to paying for using cheats?

It's not. Cheat, and you get banned.

At the moment, if a player is going to say "I promise I won't do this again" and does it again, they'll get a permanent ban. Then they will just ban evade + cheat even worse, in a retaliatory way - completely ruining the experience for rule-abiding players.

If a player pays for an unban (at the discretion of staff) then does the same rulebreak again, then, at staff discretion, they should be charged an even higher fee for an unban. If they continue - it's more revenue, more compensation, and more punishment to their wallet.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2023, 03:54:00 pm by WAP »



Cyberbullying, racism, and homophobia is unacceptable in 2024. Please report users for saying n*gger and f*ggot to the internet police here.

KSKSKSS

Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2023, 03:51:06 pm »
good luck this time 👍

Offline BeatEn

  • *
  • Posts: 778
  • Country: in
  • Respect: +22/-39
  • Gender: Male
  • run d ice wallow come
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: beateN
  • Discord name: BeatEn#5416
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2023, 04:01:23 pm »
even if i somehow ignore the fact that this will mean that you can pay to use aimbot and all sort of cheats, at the end of the day, its the staff (moderators, admins and managers), that collect the evidence to ban a cheater, and youre telling me that all the money will be going to mike XD? if this has even a slight chance of my support, it will only be IF THE STAFF TEAM gets equal money for the unban, because we are the ones placing a ban that is being revoked because that guy gave money to mike, which makes us look like idiots.

Offline FreAkeD

  • *
  • Posts: 218
  • Country: in
  • Respect: +4/-8
  • Gender: Male
  • ॥ अंतः अस्ति प्रारंभः ॥
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: [CbK]FreAkeD
  • Discord name: freaked_
  • Crew: [CbK] Cold Blood Killahs
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2023, 04:08:53 pm »
-1

KSKSKSS

Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2023, 04:15:13 pm »
even if i somehow ignore the fact that this will mean that you can pay to use aimbot and all sort of cheats, at the end of the day, its the staff (moderators, admins and managers), that collect the evidence to ban a cheater, and youre telling me that all the money will be going to mike XD? if this has even a slight chance of my support, it will only be IF THE STAFF TEAM gets equal money for the unban, because we are the ones placing a ban that is being revoked because that guy gave money to mike, which makes us look like idiots.

use my idea then?
https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,8566.msg40885.html#msg40885

Offline FugiTive.

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 151
  • Country: cx
  • Respect: +2/-20
  • Gender: Other
  • Silence is the best weapon in this cruel world!
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: FuGiTive (RIP)
  • Discord name: crystalz007
  • Crew: #SINGLE
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2023, 04:18:13 pm »
Highly doubt that macro and jastak'd be happy and even me but the fact is I'm not going to evade the ban.

Anyways +1, for me it's very good. @BeatEn $10 are enough or more?


My signatures won't be changed until my ban expires (05/5/2024)

Offline Fapfvl

  • Banned
  • Baller
  • *
  • Posts: 467
  • Country: in
  • Respect: +7/-44
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: Fapfvl
  • Discord name: Fapfvl
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2023, 05:48:32 am »
+1

Offline Ravager

  • Banned
  • *
  • Posts: 542
  • Country: ps
  • Respect: +7/-86
  • Gender: Male
  • fastest man alive
    • View Profile
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2023, 10:31:38 am »
even if i somehow ignore the fact that this will mean that you can pay to use aimbot and all sort of cheats, at the end of the day, its the staff (moderators, admins and managers), that collect the evidence to ban a cheater, and youre telling me that all the money will be going to mike XD? if this has even a slight chance of my support, it will only be IF THE STAFF TEAM gets equal money for the unban, because we are the ones placing a ban that is being revoked because that guy gave money to mike, which makes us look like idiots.
I'm ready to take that risk if u guys want to ☺️☺️

Offline WAP

  • *
  • Posts: 354
  • Country: kp
  • Respect: +20/-10
  • Gender: Other
  • mike i've changed it 4 times now
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: WAP
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2023, 02:20:31 am »
even if i somehow ignore the fact that this will mean that you can pay to use aimbot and all sort of cheats, at the end of the day, its the staff (moderators, admins and managers), that collect the evidence to ban a cheater, and youre telling me that all the money will be going to mike XD? if this has even a slight chance of my support, it will only be IF THE STAFF TEAM gets equal money for the unban, because we are the ones placing a ban that is being revoked because that guy gave money to mike, which makes us look like idiots.

I do agree - "Compensating the community" is part of that, but of course this would be open to Mike's discretion to implement. Dealing with bullshit unban requests is painful, and it would be a great way to compensate you for your time/effort.

This would have to be implemented in a way that doesn't create a conflict of interest between staff and players. For example, instead of  receiving cash for collecting evidence, it could be "pooled" and distributed in a fair way, inter-staff events could be made with gift cards/monetary prizes, or even "staff of the month" could include a gift card/monetary prize.



Cyberbullying, racism, and homophobia is unacceptable in 2024. Please report users for saying n*gger and f*ggot to the internet police here.

Offline Mike

  • Server Owner
  • *
  • Posts: 3683
  • Country: gb
  • Respect: +413/-71
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • MCNR name: Mike
  • Discord name: mp2
Re: Charge a fee for certain unbans
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2023, 02:21:52 pm »
Not even going to read past the title -_-
View trailers here.