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Balancing rustler
« on: December 08, 2023, 07:42:18 pm »
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I like what was done with recent patches for the most part but removing the /vr mid air makes rustling underwhelming and really tough. I might be wrong cause I'm out of practice. I barely play anymore, I join once in a while but from what I hear, there are pretty much no pilots on the server.

@Mike do you think it would be reasonable to at least have the option to put vehicle armor on the rustler, or maybe even raising base HP to 1100hp or something and keeping an eye on it until rustling is more viable again. I don't wanna be biased here and toot my own horn but I honestly believe rustling is in a objectively bad spot right now.

Balance it to the point it's viable again and have some kind of balancing lever like adjusting hp in case it becomes too strong again, you can simply nerf it by 50 or 100 hp again. Balance it properly to the point people actually give it a shot, if possible. I'm patient and I don't even play enough to care lately, but I think it would be fair, that's why im writing this post.

Otherwise I see server doing well, the latest update(s) were good, and I'm grateful for everyone's contribution. However I'm a pilot at heart and I'd love to enjoy rustling more those rare times that I join the server.

Thanks and be well



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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2023, 08:20:23 pm »
i had a generative reader read this for me, -1

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2023, 04:57:07 am »
what do you mean lil bro

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2023, 05:00:31 am »
+1

i had a generative reader read this for me, -1

I had my eyes read this to me, it was completely pain-free and comprehensible



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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2023, 11:30:49 am »
stop giving me negative karma ya'll i know you can't handle the bitter truth

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2023, 12:23:50 pm »
How no pilots, when a wutanger joins everyone being a cop and uses 5 rulstlers and 2 sparrows against one player  :D

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2023, 12:24:46 pm »
People don't use rustler because they can't use It. Not because It's underpowered -1

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2023, 08:32:14 pm »
I like what was done with recent patches for the most part but removing the /vr mid air makes rustling underwhelming and really tough. I might be wrong cause I'm out of practice. I barely play anymore, I join once in a while but from what I hear, there are pretty much no pilots on the server.

@Mike do you think it would be reasonable to at least have the option to put vehicle armor on the rustler, or maybe even raising base HP to 1100hp or something and keeping an eye on it until rustling is more viable again. I don't wanna be biased here and toot my own horn but I honestly believe rustling is in a objectively bad spot right now.

Balance it to the point it's viable again and have some kind of balancing lever like adjusting hp in case it becomes too strong again, you can simply nerf it by 50 or 100 hp again. Balance it properly to the point people actually give it a shot, if possible. I'm patient and I don't even play enough to care lately, but I think it would be fair, that's why im writing this post.

Otherwise I see server doing well, the latest update(s) were good, and I'm grateful for everyone's contribution. However I'm a pilot at heart and I'd love to enjoy rustling more those rare times that I join the server.

Thanks and be well



just get good at flying rustler then u don't give a fuck on ur vehicle HP .for learning take classes from @Dan (also Dan pay me 200k coz I got u 1 $tudent)

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2023, 09:44:35 pm »
just get good at flying rustler then u don't give a fuck on ur vehicle HP .for learning take classes from @Dan (also Dan pay me 200k coz I got u 1 $tudent)

did you really just tell @Faksy to "get good at flying rustler"

? ? ? ? ?



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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2023, 09:58:29 am »
Crap suggesting detected please cease activity

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2023, 06:10:02 pm »
did you really just tell @Faksy to "get good at flying rustler"

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don't got time to waste on u

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2023, 07:51:06 pm »
don't got time to waste on u

and the whole of MCNR hasn't got time to waste on you, I thought you was quitting as nobody wants you here anyway? ;D




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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2023, 08:10:07 pm »
please cease activity here ya'll there's nothing fruitful in debating over a shit suggestion

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2023, 12:51:33 am »
Everything was nerfed into the earth's core, I think the ramming damage was nerfed at one point, on the other hand civ's got their better payouts and stuff... Idk, I'm not too invested over here, just saying... I'll leave it at that.

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2023, 08:04:31 am »
Just one more thing to paint a clearer picture... If we had 1000hp before and could /vr it twice at 350hp, thats 1950 effective health. Now it's 750 effective health we're working with. That's almost 300% nerf. Not to mention ramming damage nerf and weapon damage to vehicles being buffed (i'm fairly sure?). A group of 3 (2 shooters) blasted me out of air in couple seconds few days ago. And MCNR was always much harder to rustle anyway, compared to certain other CNR server. Rustler was truly gutted however you put it. One last ping @Mike cause if I don't make my case I don't think anyone will, peace.

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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2023, 12:47:17 pm »
I think a video to back up this suggestion would be a good idea.
View trailers here.


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Re: Balancing rustler
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2023, 09:07:57 pm »
A video of what exactly ? Nvm found something working on it, uploading

Here,


Absolutely bonkers, I ever tried to fly low to avoid dmg, now imagine there's 2 or 3 of them in that car I can't even circle around once... There's no point in using rustler anymore really like this
When I said almost 300 percent earlier I didn't take increased dmg into account, its more like at least 500% nerf, even with vehicle armor it would be weaker than it was before
« Last Edit: December 12, 2023, 09:27:49 pm by Faksy »