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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2023, 07:03:43 pm »
This is not a TDM server

Go play another server then

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2023, 07:07:09 pm »
Go play another server then

Stay on topic or do not reply ,it's that simple.
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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2023, 07:11:53 pm »
Sparrow is slower than most vehicles which are used by experienced MWs, including airborne ones.
You don't to be a mastermind to successfully avoid sparrow's range, not to mention if it's at least 2 MWs, chances of sparrow being shredded are big enough to spare any trouble.

Rustlers can't be properly used in SF, and partially in the rest of a map, which makes them obsolete in these areas.
Meanwhile only 1-2 sparrows spawn at Ocean Docks (LS), 1 at Naval Base (SF), 1 at Area69 (LV) with 50% chance. So, if you were to take it down somewhere far away from its original spawn, you have spare time to deal with other cops and/or restock.
And for some reason, people still forget that not only Sparrow is 10 rank only, but piloting it also takes some skill.
What is 600 HP? At 249 it's already blowing up, which means you have to deal 351 damage to it to blow it up, unless pilot is quick enough to repair it mid-air.

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2023, 07:17:15 pm »
Sparrow is slower than most vehicles which are used by experienced MWs, including airborne ones.
You don't to be a mastermind to successfully avoid sparrow's range, not to mention if it's at least 2 MWs, chances of sparrow being shredded are big enough to spare any trouble.

Rustlers can't be properly used in SF, and partially in the rest of a map, which makes them obsolete in these areas.
Meanwhile only 1-2 sparrows spawn at Ocean Docks (LS), 1 at Naval Base (SF), 1 at Area69 (LV) with 50% chance. So, if you were to take it down somewhere far away from its original spawn, you have spare time to deal with other cops and/or restock.
And for some reason, people still forget that not only Sparrow is 10 rank only, but piloting it also takes some skill.
What is 600 HP? At 249 it's already blowing up, which means you have to deal 351 damage to it to blow it up, unless pilot is quick enough to repair it mid-air.
1-) yes its slower but it melts any car in 4 seconds
2-) impossible to defend urself as a solo, and even with teammates cuz no one with brain cells would go alone with a sparrow to attack 4 mws. so we cant focus on 1 heli while we have 4-6 other cops on our dick
3-) its not hard to use.. its legit a heli but with miniguns
4-) its unfair for cops to have airborne shit while criminals dont.. they already have rustlers... why have this shit aswell ?
5-) why are u acting like only a sparrow attacks us lmfao ? its unfair when u have to deal with it and cops with cars aswell

« Last Edit: March 19, 2023, 07:21:24 pm by punisher »

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2023, 07:22:24 pm »
I'm gonna add one more thing:
for some reason I didn't find any update note regarding Sparrow&Rustler changes. I personally was fine with Sparrow having 500HP and Rustler having 1000HP. Idk what caused the change, my only guess would be drive-by damage buffs...I don't mind the revert on HP part.

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2023, 04:03:20 am »

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2023, 04:27:05 am »
i'd like to give the sparrow to army and not for the cops

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2023, 08:03:53 am »
Make the sea sparrow criminals only

i do agree with combean on the hp flash back
« Last Edit: March 20, 2023, 08:07:26 am by GoldenBoy »

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2023, 11:46:59 pm »
How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.
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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2023, 12:41:19 am »
How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.

Well said.

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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2023, 07:54:57 am »
How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.
This assumes that the pilot does not have ground allies to flush you out of cover.
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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2023, 07:57:10 am »
Seasparrow and Rustler will be for army one day.
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Re: remove sparrows
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2023, 11:48:16 am »
Seasparrow and Rustler will be for army one day.

Please make a possibility to join army for normal players as well, not that ''friend club'' we have in MCNR.