remove sparrows

[punisher]

I still dont get why this shit is still here.
cops got rustlers and this shit ? how is it fair for us mws to deal with it ? as solos u cant do shit about it cuz u cant stop,shoot,then go back in cuz ur car would be fucked in 4 seconds.. and as a team u can somewhat deal with it but not if theres 10 cops on ur dick..

Remove it and rebuff rustlers to make it somewhat fair.

[Rivers]

Sparrows are meant for criminals which are camping on rooftops ,if they will be removed the camping will never stop

Also the sparrow HP is only 500 so it's fair enough.

[punisher]

Sparrows are meant for criminals which are camping on rooftops ,if they will be removed the camping will never stop

Also the sparrow HP is only 500 so it's fair enough.

expect no one is hiding on rooftops ?
either way u still got a 1.5k hp heli and rustlers ? u need hydra aswell ?
and its 600 hp now cuz mike decided its not overpowered

[Walt]

Sparrows are meant for criminals which are camping on rooftops ,if they will be removed the camping will never stop

Also the sparrow HP is only 500 so it's fair enough.

Police mavericks exist yk

[Rivers]

expect no one is hiding on rooftops ?
either way u still got a 1.5k hp heli and rustlers ? u need hydra aswell ?
and its 600 hp now cuz mike decided its not overpowered

No-one is talking about hydras here.

Sparrow is a support vehicle for which i call ''Bullet + sawnoffs + uzis + teaming '' Criminals so the constant cop hunting ends


Also define the word criminal - you mean MW's job is to only kill police officers? That's some psycho shit right here

[LiveEMG]

I’m in ageeement with this post tbh. Admittedly, it’s fun shredding armored cars and helis with it but it’s not good for the server long-term. It’s literally the Hunter without rockets, or if you gave a cop angel wings and a minigun with unlimited ammo. Revert the nerf to Rustler and allow its existence because that plane can’t make degenerate maneuvers like the Seasparrow can.

[punisher]

No-one is talking about hydras here.

Sparrow is a support vehicle for which i call ''Bullet + sawnoffs + uzis + teaming '' Criminals so the constant cop hunting ends

ahh so adding a overpowered heli cuz u cops are so bad at the game ? how is it balanced for u bro ??
ur acting like yall cant go around and get urself a bullet and sawns and uzis and teaming lmfao ? what kind of logic do u have lmfao ?

[punisher]

Also define the word criminal - you mean MW's job is to only kill police officers? That's some psycho shit right here

What can i do if i can only rob the bank twice each 20 minutes  as a mw ofc  fish ?

[Rivers]

ahh so adding a overpowered heli cuz u cops are so bad at the game ? how is it balanced for u bro ??
ur acting like yall cant go around and get urself a bullet and sawns and uzis and teaming lmfao ? what kind of logic do u have lmfao ?

How is running around in circles whilst using newbie guns called beeing good at the game?

''What can i do if i can only rob the bank twice each 20 minutes  as a mw ofc  fish ?''

- This is not a TDM server

[Ralsei]

Trash suggestion -1

[punisher]

How is running around in circles whilst using newbie guns called beeing good at the game?

''What can i do if i can only rob the bank twice each 20 minutes  as a mw ofc  fish ?''

- This is not a TDM server

if its that easy why would yall need sparrows to counter mws ?
@Rivers
 Pls dont reply again unless u make a solid ass point on why yall need rustlers a 1.5k hp heli and the sparrow.

[Ralsei]

How is running around in circles whilst using newbie guns called beeing good at the game?

''What can i do if i can only rob the bank twice each 20 minutes  as a mw ofc  fish ?''

- This is not a TDM server

Tracking a target is very difficult skill, It's core element of any FPS game, hell even games like OSU value it. So get out woti your no skill arguments

[Rivers]

Tracking a target is very difficult skill, It's core element of any FPS game, hell even games like OSU value it. So get out woti your no skill arguments

This is not an ''FPS'' game

Switching weapons from Uzis to Sawns just to reload faster is laughing stock lol

[xxzc1g]

totally agree with removing it

and also cops finding everything they can abuse and they start doing it over and over, till they make the game so boring
for now, some cops getting a sparrow and start shooting and hiding and using /vr (this command is nonsense and not even close to logic)  it should be removed for planes/helis and if possible only for sparrow in case this suggestion get rejected

[punisher]

This is not an ''FPS'' game

Again if its easy why arent u good ?

[Ralsei]

This is not an ''FPS'' game

Still a game with element of shooting, pretty much any of the shooter games require tracking as main skill.

[Rivers]

Again if its easy why arent u good ?

Have you ever seen me using Double Uzi's and Sawn-offs?

[Ralsei]

I will expand my standpoint from "Trash suggestion -1"

I believe we shouldn't remove sparrow but make it avaliable both for civvys and cops. restricting vehicles based on team Is stupid itself and should be lifted

[Rivers]

I will expand my standpoint from "Trash suggestion -1"

I believe we shouldn't remove sparrow but make it avaliable both for civvys and cops. restricting vehicles based on team Is stupid itself and should be lifted

This is not a TDM server

[Ralsei]

This is not a TDM server

https://www.mensa.org/public/mensa-iq-challenge

Finish before making any further replies.

[Walt]

This is not a TDM server

Go play another server then

[Rivers]

Go play another server then

Stay on topic or do not reply ,it's that simple.
Bunch of moaners

[Combean0007]

Sparrow is slower than most vehicles which are used by experienced MWs, including airborne ones.
You don't to be a mastermind to successfully avoid sparrow's range, not to mention if it's at least 2 MWs, chances of sparrow being shredded are big enough to spare any trouble.

Rustlers can't be properly used in SF, and partially in the rest of a map, which makes them obsolete in these areas.
Meanwhile only 1-2 sparrows spawn at Ocean Docks (LS), 1 at Naval Base (SF), 1 at Area69 (LV) with 50% chance. So, if you were to take it down somewhere far away from its original spawn, you have spare time to deal with other cops and/or restock.
And for some reason, people still forget that not only Sparrow is 10 rank only, but piloting it also takes some skill.
What is 600 HP? At 249 it's already blowing up, which means you have to deal 351 damage to it to blow it up, unless pilot is quick enough to repair it mid-air.

[punisher]

Sparrow is slower than most vehicles which are used by experienced MWs, including airborne ones.
You don't to be a mastermind to successfully avoid sparrow's range, not to mention if it's at least 2 MWs, chances of sparrow being shredded are big enough to spare any trouble.

Rustlers can't be properly used in SF, and partially in the rest of a map, which makes them obsolete in these areas.
Meanwhile only 1-2 sparrows spawn at Ocean Docks (LS), 1 at Naval Base (SF), 1 at Area69 (LV) with 50% chance. So, if you were to take it down somewhere far away from its original spawn, you have spare time to deal with other cops and/or restock.
And for some reason, people still forget that not only Sparrow is 10 rank only, but piloting it also takes some skill.
What is 600 HP? At 249 it's already blowing up, which means you have to deal 351 damage to it to blow it up, unless pilot is quick enough to repair it mid-air.

1-) yes its slower but it melts any car in 4 seconds
2-) impossible to defend urself as a solo, and even with teammates cuz no one with brain cells would go alone with a sparrow to attack 4 mws. so we cant focus on 1 heli while we have 4-6 other cops on our dick
3-) its not hard to use.. its legit a heli but with miniguns
4-) its unfair for cops to have airborne shit while criminals dont.. they already have rustlers... why have this shit aswell ?
5-) why are u acting like only a sparrow attacks us lmfao ? its unfair when u have to deal with it and cops with cars aswell

[Combean0007]

I'm gonna add one more thing:
for some reason I didn't find any update note regarding Sparrow&Rustler changes. I personally was fine with Sparrow having 500HP and Rustler having 1000HP. Idk what caused the change, my only guess would be drive-by damage buffs...I don't mind the revert on HP part.

[KSKSKSS]

Trash suggestion -1

Same

[siSway]

i'd like to give the sparrow to army and not for the cops

[Goldenman]

Make the sea sparrow criminals only

i do agree with combean on the hp flash back

[Ahsoka_Tano]

How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.

[KSKSKSS]

How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.

Well said.

[Devils]

How to avoid a seasparrow:

- go into a tunnel
- go under a roof of a gas station
- go near trees if there are any, can't shoot what you can't see
- stop your vehicle and hide behind it while you shoot at it
- stop the vehicle and shoot at it
- outrun it (wanted drive fast vehicles anyway)
- destroy it by shooting the top of the rotor with a sniper rifle
- clash with other police officers so the seasparrow deals collateral damage (damages friendly units instead of your vehicle)

If you didn't use drive-by all the time in open fields like the whole place is yours... then you might have known these "tactics".
The sea sparrow has been here for a long time and it is not going anywhere anytime soon unless you know another way to defeat a vehicle full of ak-47 wielding passengers without using Japanese tactics.

This assumes that the pilot does not have ground allies to flush you out of cover.

[Mike]

Seasparrow and Rustler will be for army one day.

[Rivers]

Seasparrow and Rustler will be for army one day.

Please make a possibility to join army for normal players as well, not that ''friend club'' we have in MCNR.