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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2022, 01:56:18 pm »
whatthehell, wait sec, if they raise fps to 250 it could be swimming faster or wat

No you swim like a snail with any fps higher than 60

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2022, 01:57:55 pm »
they gonna swim faster than me!1111  😔

thats why when u go into water

pause -> settings -> frame limiter on -> /fpslimit 20 to become michael phelps

you already swim slow as fuck on 130 fps tho so doesnt really matter

whatthehell, wait sec, if they raise fps to 250 it could be swimming faster or wat

Higher fps = slower swim

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2022, 02:33:09 pm »
https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,2518.0.html

No

why not, just cause it is a rule doesnt mean its right

post arguments pls

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2022, 03:32:07 pm »
200th trying of capping FPS to something else than 130. Give it a try once more. +1


Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2022, 03:40:30 pm »
Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

Where did this myth even start from?

All guns fire at the same speed, doesnt matter if youre on 500 fps or 100 fps

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2022, 04:45:06 pm »
ima give u a video thats show that u barely shoot any faster.

This video shows it in a worse light since its 100 vs 700, but realistically the gap between 130 and 250 is even smaller than that.



In my testing, i found the gap to be about 4 milliseconds between the fire rates of TEC & M4. 4 millisecond gap is a generous number too, accounting for editing error it would be probably even smaller.

4 Millisecond difference (in reality probably 1-2 ms) is not noticable at all, and is not a proper reason for the fps to be capped. The myth that guns shoot faster on higher fps is ""true"" but in reality the gap is so miniscule, it makes literally 0 difference.
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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2022, 04:51:44 pm »
Conclusion. Upping fps cap to 250 DOES NOT affect combat in any way.

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2022, 09:35:22 pm »
Typically, I find it quite indifferent to actually reject this following proposition. Since, the majority of the events are FPS based by this enormous game mechanic.

You're unable to take off the Skimmer? Just do it on a lower framerate.
Lower speed on boats? Take on your FPS limit.
Rarely taking fall damage? This is a server-sided damage based server, so there's no way to actually have the RNG on your side for this.
Pushing cars harder than the usual? Why does that one matter, nobody does that to actually take advantage, it's a useless thing to complain about.
Helicopter engine starts faster than the usual? It's already hard to take off the helicopter while we're dealing with the hotwiring in the first place (always fails on the 2nd attempt, bug).

And so on... The community are already well-aware of the following pros and cons for this whole case scenario, so it's practically no reason to even try arguing about it again, since you're gaining disadvantages on top of that aswell, which is quite balancing things out.

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2022, 10:04:13 pm »
Typically, I find it quite indifferent to actually reject this following proposition. Since, the majority of the events are FPS based by this enormous game mechanic.

You're unable to take off the Skimmer? Just do it on a lower framerate.
Lower speed on boats? Take on your FPS limit.
Rarely taking fall damage? This is a server-sided damage based server, so there's no way to actually have the RNG on your side for this.
Pushing cars harder than the usual? Why does that one matter, nobody does that to actually take advantage, it's a useless thing to complain about.
Helicopter engine starts faster than the usual? It's already hard to take off the helicopter while we're dealing with the hotwiring in the first place (always fails on the 2nd attempt, bug).

And so on... The community are already well-aware of the following pros and cons for this whole case scenario, so it's practically no reason to even try arguing about it again, since you're gaining disadvantages on top of that aswell, which is quite balancing things out.

Exactly, the "reasons" its limited at 120 are negligent and rarely apply in regular situations. How overpowered can pushing cars faster be when there is maybe 1 super niche situation where it benefits you.

Like howl mentioned, high fps does come at its own cost

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2022, 10:06:44 pm »
howl described it perfectly. Mike If you read this I hope we've proved you why It's a good idea.

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2023, 07:14:37 am »
Atleast its not rejected yet.

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2023, 08:13:25 am »
What about my core 2 duo 1gb nvdia 4gb ram PC

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2023, 04:09:39 pm »
go buy another one.
in here its expensive thank u think

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2023, 05:47:19 pm »
Why does it matter that you have a shit pc, when you can't even reach the current limit of 130 then you really shouldn't be worried about the limit being extended lmao

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2023, 06:18:32 pm »
my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay
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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2023, 06:22:39 pm »
my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2023, 10:06:47 pm »
my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay

i don't see that as our/server problem, i mean like what do you have, a 2 core processor? my gpu had some display issue since last 2 or 3 weeks, and i have been playing games without gpu.
In samp i get stable 130 fps in any weather and without fps cap i get like 200-250.

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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2023, 10:29:33 pm »
i don't see that as our/server problem, i mean like what do you have, a 2 core processor? my gpu had some display issue since last 2 or 3 weeks, and i have been playing games without gpu.
In samp i get stable 130 fps in any weather and without fps cap i get like 200-250.

My PC was good 7 years ago I have 8gb ram/2gb graphics/A10 Processor, but the PC through 7 years is slow, I guess my components are burned because every game freezes, fps drops hard and navigate on net is pretty is slow (is not a internet issue because I have 40/50 ping and speedtest is between 100/130 Mb per second in download and 70 upload.
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Re: FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2023, 11:26:56 pm »
Stop posting here it's already been said its not happening.