Author Topic: How do you see future of MCNR? (Read 3936 times)

Ralsei · « **on:** January 27, 2023, 12:46:13 pm »

I want this topic to be rather friendly discussion about future of the server. From my standpoint Mike has gone crazy to the point where he can't understand nor satisfy the playerbase and ends up focusing on everything no matter how useless It is (Investigating infinite drinking glitch). Share your standpoint in this case. And don't try to act like monkey pls.

puuro · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2023, 01:04:49 pm »

slow death like sacnr if it goes this way

- no updates for some time, 1.15 is more of a meme than an actual thing that people believe is going to happen

- rejecting suggestions with high community support

- majority of suggestions not getting closed at all and go ignored

- state of balance is fucked (cops are STILL haven't been nerfed)

PeZ · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2023, 01:39:05 pm »

Its pretty much pointless playing, I mean the real reason server is dying are Cops, for example take a look at the screen shot i took. You call this fair ? Noone wants to log on the server and be forced to fight minumum 5 cops.

No updates going on, server was ddosed so many times, then you lost players, you fix the problem with ddosing, players came back to new update expecting something really playfull, server dies after a month.

SO MANY aimbotters. Someone makes /report ingame and staff team respond with 'invalid report', nice1. Yall dont care about "rule breakers" or anything else than being "staff member" just to be role higher in discord. Baning players for no reason is one of the problems staff has, MANY times you banned a player after 2 MONTHS you unban. gg.

Removing some suggestions that will make server fun and playable is really smart. Dont you all want what community wants not you... To keep ur players man.

staff have done nothing with BALANCING cops v crims, after staff said 'we are working really hard on that'

Make new events ingame, same thing happening over and over... Be creative.

On the exact this date — 10/09/2022 you revealed new arena for duels, what happend to it ? noone knows, LAZINESS

puuro · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2023, 01:58:36 pm »

Quote from: punisher on January 27, 2023, 01:34:08 pm

i mean of it continues the same way as of now.. it will die slowly.

the lack of uptades,the overall unbalance between cops/civis, the low dmg on certain guns/ the boringness when joining the server without having friends will eventually kill it

just like sacnr.. even tho i havent played it.. the players there told me what happened to it

i give it like 3-4 month more.. if 1.15 or no uptades will roll in i see alot of players quitting

nah 3-4 months is unrealistic, even sacnr held out for like 2 years

slowly but surely playercount will lower, and in the end there will still be a few diehard nolifers grinding but at thats point its too late

Ralsei · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2023, 02:02:33 pm »

Glad I'm seeing proper opinions not monkey fighting. Maybe Mike will get his shit up and realize that we are open for actual conversation not just complaining 24/7

BeatEn · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2023, 02:39:36 pm »

I agree that the server needs a major update badly. I mean I've been hearing it ever since I joined (like 6 months ago), and yet nothing major. I hope whatever comes will be worth the long wait. It's true cops are overpowered right now, they have too many benefits with far less risk, that's why most people play as a cop. As for the future of this server, I'm not sure what to say to be honest, i just hope it's a good one
Edit: cops being overpowered is not the only problem right now, there are numerous others which we all are well aware of, i just mentioned the most obvious one

MD_Abdullah_Khan · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2023, 07:09:44 pm »

I believe the future is bright for MCnR and that there is still a long way to go, but only if the server receives regular content updates and is well managed. If I'm not mistaken, we are the last remaining CnR server and one of the few active SAMP servers, which is a huge advantage.

I understand that this is just a hobby for Mike and that he has more important priorities in life, but it would be nice if he could put in some extra effort towards the server and finish the update that everyone is eagerly awaiting.

Quote from: YoungThug on January 27, 2023, 01:39:05 pm

No updates going on, server was ddosed so many times, then you lost players, you fix the problem with ddosing, players came back to new update expecting something really playfull, server dies after a month.

There is no 100% solution to DDOS and cheating. The number of players varies depending on the time of year (school break = more players). These are common issues for all servers..

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Baning players for no reason is one of the problems staff has, MANY times you banned a player after 2 MONTHS you unban. gg.

I disagree, everyone is banned for a reason, but some players enjoy twisting their story and playing the victim card in order to gain sympathy from other players. I could point out specific players doing this right now and explain more, but given my position here, that wouldn't be right.

BehindYou · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2023, 10:39:22 pm »

How about not hiring new admins who punish players for small silly things.
Or let's say acting bossy cause end of the day no one would want to play here if you have some amount of admins who act ldiots, nothing better to do
Then you see old players coming back like old times

PeZ · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2023, 12:59:36 am »

Quote from: s1mple on January 27, 2023, 07:09:44 pm

I disagree, everyone is banned for a reason, but some players enjoy twisting their story and playing the victim card in order to gain sympathy from other players. I could point out specific players doing this right now and explain more, but given my position here, that wouldn't be right.

Its just your new staff, Howl acting up banning players for "aimbot" what kind of DETECTIVE is he. Did he code the fucking aimbot or something ? man banned kvn for smooth aim. Nowadays you cant even post a montage before you get acused of 20 people for aimbot. And as a higher role than Admin you should do something about your staff abusing. Slam dunking 4 cops to keep himself alive, pathethic. 10 minutes of admin jailtime ? Niceone.

Yes howl was NON Threath, but what would happend if you killed them with that slamdunk ? Would he keep on going and pretend nothing happend ? This was not fair to the playerbase, as that they're new players who saw u had bounty on you, and were thirsty for that money.

parisisnthuman · « **Reply #9 on:** January 28, 2023, 07:15:41 am »

Quote from: Ralsei on January 27, 2023, 12:46:13 pm

I want this topic to be rather friendly discussion about future of the server. From my standpoint Mike has gone crazy to the point where he can't understand nor satisfy the playerbase and ends up focusing on everything no matter how useless It is (Investigating infinite drinking glitch). Share your standpoint in this case. And don't try to act like monkey pls.

without mike caring about script nor community there isnt really a "future of mcnr" in sight, playerbase is gonna lower but wont die off cause youll have pop_smoke zack and smixy sucking eachother in server just having fun of their lives

Devils · « **Reply #10 on:** January 28, 2023, 08:25:10 am »

Quote from: YoungThug on January 28, 2023, 12:59:36 am

Yes howl was NON Threath, but what would happend if you killed them with that slamdunk ? Would he keep on going and pretend nothing happend ? This was not fair to the playerbase, as that they're new players who saw u had bounty on you, and were thirsty for that money.

So you want new players to be able to break the rules? without any punishment of any kind?

Ralsei · « **Reply #11 on:** January 28, 2023, 08:54:14 am »

Quote from: YoungThug on January 28, 2023, 12:59:36 am

Its just your new staff, Howl acting up banning players for "aimbot" what kind of DETECTIVE is he. Did he code the fucking aimbot or something ? man banned kvn for smooth aim. Nowadays you cant even post a montage before you get acused of 20 people for aimbot.

Looks like you don't know overdoz well, he was cheating in many other servers and associating with many cheaters.

PeZ · « **Reply #12 on:** January 28, 2023, 10:09:31 am »

Quote from: Devils on January 28, 2023, 08:25:10 am

So you want new players to be able to break the rules? without any punishment of any kind?

stop acting up, I never said they shouldnt get punished. Running away while cops chasing you and you slamdunk for you to survive is abuse. Players should get punished after the incident.

BehindYou · « **Reply #13 on:** January 28, 2023, 11:18:45 am »

What's hard to understand Mike
You have a good server with excellence scripts
But
If you have shit staff members who take the life seriously over a video game and abusing players then obviously your sever will become shit and you know that.
This happened in other servers and that means pattern up your staff.

Krzychu · « **Reply #14 on:** January 28, 2023, 11:34:06 am »

You have to quit samp, find a girlfriend. Get your life, don't waste time on this shit.

Ralsei · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2023, 11:48:20 am »

I somewhat agree except for the girlfriend part

howl · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2023, 11:59:56 am »

Quote from: YoungThug on January 28, 2023, 12:59:36 am

Its just your new staff, Howl acting up banning players for "aimbot" what kind of DETECTIVE is he. Did he code the fucking aimbot or something ? man banned kvn for smooth aim. Nowadays you cant even post a montage before you get acused of 20 people for aimbot. And as a higher role than Admin you should do something about your staff abusing. Slam dunking 4 cops to keep himself alive, pathethic. 10 minutes of admin jailtime ? Niceone.

Yes howl was NON Threath, but what would happend if you killed them with that slamdunk ? Would he keep on going and pretend nothing happend ? This was not fair to the playerbase, as that they're new players who saw u had bounty on you, and were thirsty for that money.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noydOlbxmZo

Hm... this is quite flattering.

Obsidian · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2023, 01:12:25 pm »

If mike keeps doing useless stuffs and doesn't listening to itself community i will not be surprised if the server is so dead but some people will still play it of course but less players, The server is slowly dying now i am waiting for the update too if its bad or good i will be back playing if the server is completely balanced now, We'll see in the future.

pablo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2023, 05:28:01 pm »

Quote from: MySpace on January 28, 2023, 11:34:06 am

You have to quit samp, find a girlfriend. Get your life, don't waste time on this shit.

exactly!

punisher · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2023, 06:19:41 pm »

Quote from: YoungThug on January 28, 2023, 12:59:36 am

Its just your new staff, Howl acting up banning players for "aimbot" what kind of DETECTIVE is he. Did he code the fucking aimbot or something ? man banned kvn for smooth aim. Nowadays you cant even post a montage before you get acused of 20 people for aimbot. And as a higher role than Admin you should do something about your staff abusing. Slam dunking 4 cops to keep himself alive, pathethic. 10 minutes of admin jailtime ? Niceone.

Yes howl was NON Threath, but what would happend if you killed them with that slamdunk ? Would he keep on going and pretend nothing happend ? This was not fair to the playerbase, as that they're new players who saw u had bounty on you, and were thirsty for that money.

just to yall know.. the dude isnt targetting anyone.. mf legit mutes/jails me and others for some little things.
the whole idea of "YOU" getting targetted isnt valid,
and for overdoze.. no need to talk
he got what he deserved

RedX · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2023, 06:46:24 pm »

It's been quite a time since the last major update. I do expect a huge update in the near future. Some new features I would like to see are listed below:-
- Drug system
- Crew System
- Casino Heist
- Lowered weapon cost for civilians
- Maybe bring back Monster Truck as a donator exclusive vehicle too

As discussed above about "nerfing" cops, I don't think it's something Mike can do just by a single change of script since the problem is not entirely in the script but in the mindset of other players. He can't force players to play as a cop or criminal. Most of the players play as a cop because of the stereotype created by other players about how overpowered it is to be a cop. My suggestion is to make cops lose more money (say $1000) upon dying so they don't relentlessly keep attacking criminals. Also, increase the prices for their ammo. Cops can literally buy ammo at 1/10th the price of Ammunation which is another reason why people feel cops are overpowered. Other suggestions could be made later but these kinda feel necessary to me at the moment.

franklyn · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2023, 05:37:49 am »

Hello everyone hope u all doing well.
There are many ups and down in last 6 month in mcnr.. But that doesn't mean You all Start criticise mcnr.

lack of updates doesn't mean server is bad or slowly dying.. Fun fact is that players saying they will leave server if server not get update soon..

I bet u there is not a single player who intentionally leave mcnr(ban is a exception) bcoz environment created by mike on mcnr is unique and you will not find this type of server in whole samp.
If u just want to do rdm and happy to use aimbot and other cheats then definitely u got a prblm in this server.
While on other server even a noob player fuck a pro player with the help of aimbot and other cheat hacks.

Mcnr is all about to enjoy ur free time with ur Frnds

in this server which has many things to do just for eg. There is a Seperate place for duel. But if u use aimbot just to kill other and increase ur k/d ratio so my Frnd this server not for u and we don't need thwse types of player who ruin other games just for fun..

I accept that updates are delaying But u have to wait for good things.. Mike is alone who script this whole mcnr so he need time.. He has life also family as well hes not like many of u who dont have life but just to play game and ruin other gameplay

I noticed only those players comment on this post Who just want DM nothing else but there are many things in mcnr to do.

Balance server..
Let's take an exmaple to understand this
1. Total player 30 12cops amd 18 civ
Players are so fucked up in this situation bcoz cop are more than enough bcoz they killed by criminal everytime.
And the prblm arise from This point

2. Total players 30. 22civ and 8 cops
In this situation criminal are so happy bcoz they fuck cops everytime by gangup, now they don't have prblm.
I just wanna ask why u have prblm when u killed by cops and why not when u kill a cop.

I'm not denying to balance server it should be but be logically talking on 1 side is not enough.
Well enjoy playing mcnr there r lots of thing to do. Good luck

AllyLily · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2023, 09:03:57 am »

So many people want the cops to be nerfed but in my opinion, there's a good counter-suggestion to boost the payouts that civilians/criminals get, which would create a situation of high risk / high gain for criminals specifically, but that belongs more to the suggestions board anyway.

Elsewise overall, the server is doing well but I don't know how many (potential) players are willing to put up with the increasing toxicity and lenient handling thereof. Perhaps it's just me but I prefer it when people don't turn (at least) the main chat into a slur-fest.

(Oh, and the economy. Us peaceful players need more stuff to spend our hard-earned cash on instead of being easy prey for pickpockets. Ammo is good but there's only so much you can buy if you don't really use it)

BehindYou · « **Reply #23 on:** January 29, 2023, 10:55:46 am »

How about fix the staff members first,
No one gives a shit about anything else

AvenTadoR · « **Reply #24 on:** January 29, 2023, 11:31:57 am »

-Increase civilian job's payouts

-Get rid of this https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,12971.0.html There is nothing more annoying when you and your driver about to win in a 4 vs 2 situation, and you just get fucked by police because the anti cheat detects rapid fire in m4 drive by...

-I support Redx's idea, make cops lose 5 - 10k per death, and also rise their weapon prices as well and make civilian's weapon prices a little bit lower, since it is more difficult to be a criminal then a donut eater.

-Remove swat helmet. Since Mike doesn't understand why do we want to remove that helmet protection that hard, it's because let's say you and your friend robbing the bank for that 10 - 18k dollars. Then suddenly another 2 cops came out of nowhere, and the driver has the SWAT skin with his helmet on, which is a big advantage for the driver, if the drive bying criminal doesn't have a good drive by aim accuracy.

That is how i see.

Ahsoka_Tano · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2023, 08:41:13 pm »

Hello!

I have not been playing for a while due to personal stuff and i don't see myself spending time here just to eventually quit because some People just Like to kill others because they are "helping their friend" or make fun of me because they are bored.
So i just watch the forums and so far it has only been a dissapointment. Immaturity, disrespect and overall unhuman behaviour so im not even surprised some people don't look up the forums.

The server has a bright future if the players would turn from, Let's learn new players that the only thing to do here is shoot/kill/drive-by/respawn/show off...
to: Let's have some fun, improvise and explore what we haven't seen yet.

Cheers.

cynosy · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2023, 09:09:02 pm »

Quote from: Ahsoka_Tano on January 30, 2023, 08:41:13 pm

Hello!

I have not been playing for a while due to personal stuff and i don't see myself spending time here just to eventually quit because some People just Like to kill others because they are "helping their friend" or make fun of me because they are bored.
So i just watch the forums and so far it has only been a dissapointment. Immaturity, disrespect and overall unhuman behaviour so im not even surprised some people don't look up the forums.

The server has a bright future if the players would turn from, Let's learn new players that the only thing to do here is shoot/kill/drive-by/respawn/show off...
to: Let's have some fun, improvise and explore what we haven't seen yet.

Cheers.

^

punisher · « **Reply #27 on:** January 30, 2023, 09:47:17 pm »

Quote from: Ahsoka_Tano on January 30, 2023, 08:41:13 pm

Let's have some fun, improvise and explore what we haven't seen yet.

Theres a reason why the server is quite simply boring.. its because we explored everything there is
robbed bank more than i can count.
fished till lvl 100.. no need for fishing after that
went cop and reached lvl 10.. nothing else to do
medic.. ill get bored same for firefighter.
Like yall keep on saying kill cops bla bla bla.. meanwhile theres nothing else to do.

Once these new players lvl up and shit.. they will do the exact same thing im doing. go ahead and kill cops and most probably quit because cops are way to overpowered or simply go cop to avoid losing all of ur money ( meaning they will team up and ruin the fun for mws or the other new players tryna grind the game)

its just the cycle of the server right now.

Six.Stars · « **Reply #28 on:** January 30, 2023, 10:41:37 pm »

in my opinion, mike no longer wants to commit more than the bare minimum to MCNR.

Mike can't dedicate the time that MCNR needs right now simply because Mike doesn't have the time to do it and he wants to (if you want to do something you'll find time)

I say this also because some features promised for years have not yet been implemented, just see that https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,33.0.html was updated 3 years ago....

I can understand that he works, he has his own life and also his problems, but MCNR was born from him (he said it took him years to develop it) so he must assume the responsibility that if MCNR dies it is only his fault (the community is a consequence) and if for 3 years we haven't seen any major game-changing updates, then I have to think that Mike doesn't feel like updating anymore.

I don't know how long MCNR will last, also because it's not the first time such a discussion has been created and nothing ever changes, you always read the usual answers from the staff but in the end nothing concrete.

In my opinion, by 2025/2027 we will see the end of MCNR (if not before) I hope that Mike is working behind that PC and releases something concrete that satisfies the requests and needs of the community.

Mike discards suggestions that are really beautiful only because he would never be able to find the time and above all the will to do it.

We all know that before releasing an update, various tests and tests are done, and before that god only knows how difficult it is to turn an idea into code, but nothing concrete has been seen for years and unfortunately these are the facts.

To date, many players have left MCNR, and new players get tired of the monotony and quit at some point.

Change my mind...

Mike · « **Reply #29 on:** January 30, 2023, 11:29:54 pm »

Believe me, nobody wants regular updates for MCNR more than me. I find myself waiting for a time in my life where I am not too tired, overworked, depressed and unmotivated to work on MCNR. It has become apparent that I am waiting for a time that probably isn’t coming any time soon.

My long-term partner and I separated about 6 months ago and I’ve been pretty down since then to be honest and I still am. I don’t seem to have the same enthusiasm for sitting and coding MCNR for countless hours a week any more. You would not believe how much time simple things take to code. There’s a reason I work on silly things or so-called insignificant things - because if I didn’t my output would be zero. I work on minor things because at the moment it’s all I have the energy and time for.

Since my partner left I’ve also taken on paying all the bills. My full-time job doesn’t cover that and I’ve been working 7 days a week in 3 jobs for a few months now. It’s tiring. I have actually just last week quit my 3rd job and changed my second job from Fri-Sun to Wed-Fri. That means on Wed-Fri I’ll work my main job 07:30-16:00 and my second job 17:00-22:00. But it means I have Sat and Sun free and my main reason for doing this is to focus on MCNR more. I feel awful for neglecting it and I’m very thankful to everyone that has stuck around and shown support (especially Karbz; MCNR would be fucked without him).

I also have some time off work coming up in March, April and May (10 days each). That will give me some time to work on MCNR properly.

I do take ALL feedback on board but just because the community majoritively wants something doesn’t mean I want it and at the end of the day it’s my server and it’s my decision the direction I want things to go.

I never intended 1.15 to take this long. I don’t even think it’s THAT major of an update really. It’s just been challenging to invest time in as there’s always bugs to fix. I’ve also made countless improvements and fixes in the staff system and internally that nobody outside staff will even realise.

I have thought about quitting it a few times to be honest but I’m so not ready to give up. I’m really pleased with this community and script and once again am grateful to everyone that plays. I never even thought MCNR would launch. Or I thought it would have 2 people on it (myself and my laptop lol).

I have so many fantastic plans for MCNR in the future. I just hope I can get it there.