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Using Rustler on non-mws.
« on: January 13, 2023, 04:51:36 pm »
Your in-game name                            [AoD]Fugaziii
Their in-game name                      [WT]Behindstealth
Details                                               Using rustler on non-most wanteds and we had no previous record of attacking him since he just got on duty.
Date & Time of incident (UTC)           12th jan, 23
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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2023, 05:00:58 pm »
Care to explain you and your group (in sultan) Recent Crime History?
Drive outside City does not make you immune to threat plus your group was a major threat. How do you explain me to take you down?
Plus notice the passenger shooting my rustler.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2023, 05:13:32 pm by BehindYou »

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2023, 05:23:39 pm »
I'm gonna check their crimes later to see if it was self-defense from Rustler or not, standby.

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2023, 05:43:09 pm »
This clip only shows that he used Rustler because of self-defense. Do you have a clip prior to this showing him shooting you?

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2023, 05:52:34 pm »
As you may know rustler damage does not show in the action logs.
I simply changed to cop, went to collect a rustler and before flying to them, the group of passanger including him was 100 percent threat actively shooting that's why I flew to them to do my duties, evidence shows nothing but me doing my job. Plus he shot me so you know they are a threat and this gives me every right to attack/ ram .
And if your wondering no, I did not attack them when they went to LS because when I got into my rustler they was already at LS, the evidence shows that they was evading.

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2023, 06:25:31 pm »
As you may know rustler damage does not show in the action logs.
I simply changed to cop, went to collect a rustler and before flying to them, the group of passanger including him was 100 percent threat actively shooting that's why I flew to them to do my duties, evidence shows nothing but me doing my job. Plus he shot me so you know they are a threat and this gives me every right to attack/ ram .
And if your wondering no, I did not attack them when they went to LS because when I got into my rustler they was already at LS, the evidence shows that they was evading.
Now hold on, let's not confuse rules.
Rustler&Sparrow are allowed to be used on
1. MWs
2. any 2star+ criminals swimming or piloting an aircraft
3. for self-defense.

That means you CAN NOT attack random threat criminals (2-5stars) who aren't shooting directly at you.

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2023, 06:36:46 pm »
Yes I know that according to the evidence provided
You see me flying near them . Why? Because they are wanted and I have a job to take them down.
On the clip it showed I fly near them in attempt to get them out the vehicle, or else how do you expect me to do my job? If I can't shoot them according to the rules. That's why I flew above them inches. Not a problem.
But as soon they shooted me then I have every right to attack.
If your asking did I attack them before they started recording no and I am sure the reporter does not have sufficient evidence to back his point.

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2023, 07:00:58 pm »
Now hold on, let's not confuse rules.
Rustler&Sparrow are allowed to be used on
1. MWs
2. any 2star+ criminals swimming or piloting an aircraft
3. for self-defense.

That means you CAN NOT attack random threat criminals (2-5stars) who aren't shooting directly at you.

Hey, excuse me for interrupting here but a while ago Mike said when in rustler/sparrow "treat suspects as if they're on foot". I'm not sure if anything changed since then, I doubt it because being able to attack threat suspects makes sense IMO. The text when entering rustler/seasparrow is outdated and should be finally fixed and rules regarding rustler/sparrow updated and stated clearer.

edit: in fact I'll make a suggestion to update tooltip right away.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2023, 07:03:29 pm by Faksy »

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2023, 01:20:31 am »
As we can see he is shooting th3 rustler with a cop and still not being a MW (Red) it's game bug or delay so it doesn't make u non threat it should be consider as MW

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Re: Using Rustler on non-mws.
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2023, 02:18:23 pm »
Insufficient evidence.

DISMISSED.

As for argument over Rustler&Sparrow rules, a clarification will be posted on discord soon.