FPS Cap removal suggestion #9999999999

[Ralsei]

I've spoke to alot of people regarding that. DMers or not, Majority said yes to removal. Do a public vote on discord or something. We are gonna fight for our rights and we back It up with approval of many people.

[puuro]

+1 it will never be lifted but i hate 130 fps

[Ralsei]

+1
waiting  for it to get rejected without any proper reasons

Same, waiting for these ignorant twerps

[Karbz]

I'd rather see the cap raised to about 250fps, but you start to seriously fuck up the game when you go above 60fps, in a perfect world it should be capped at 60 - 75fps that most people can easily reach unless you're using a potato.

Make it fair for everyone, - but I do support raising the cap, not total removal.

[puuro]

I'd rather see the cap raised to about 250fps, but you start to seriously fuck up the game when you go above 60fps, in a perfect world it should be capped at 60 - 75fps that most people can easily reach unless you're using a potato.

Make it fair for everyone, - but I do support raising the cap, not total removal.

Even 250 is better than 130.

[Kittycatmur]

Not fond of this suggestion, however, If this is ever going to be implemented, I at least ask the dev to check chainsaw DPS with 250+ fps, I think it might need a nerf since damage output depends on frame rate.
Immediate helicopter take off is a problem too, but at least it is something we can cope with.

[MD_Abdullah_Khan]

I at least ask the dev to check chainsaw DPS with 250+ fps, I think it might need a nerf since damage output depends on frame rate.

MCNR uses a server-side damage system, so FPS has no effect on damage.

[Kittycatmur]

MCNR uses a server-side damage system, so FPS has no effect on damage.

Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

[Ralsei]

Well I played MCNR on 500 fps and there was no dmg difference at all.

[Kittycatmur]

Well I played MCNR on 500 fps and there was no dmg difference at all.

Have you checked chainsaw specifically? I am only worried about that one, I am pretty sure the other ones will be ok

[Ralsei]

Have you checked chainsaw specifically? I am only worried about that one, I am pretty sure the other ones will be ok

Yeah. Normally you'd die to chainsaw in extremely quick time even on 130 fps so this isnt a thing to worry about

[Cashewz]

Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

There's very little to no difference fire rate changes from 60 FPS or above.

[puuro]

seems like management agrees no? 250 new cap or uncapped?

[Ralsei]

Yeah I also think 250 or so will do. Can be even 240 but 300 would be optimal

[xev]

i would say 200-250 sweet spot.

please make this suggestion happen.

i was going to make it myself, but ralsei beat me to it.

[Steev]

+1 for sure, 250 fps cap seems good, can't wait to see mike decline it

[howl]

+1, for those who play on 144-240hz monitors, and they're unable to uncap their FPS above that refresh rate.

[M.8.N_]

+1 if we can't remove fps limit to128, then just make it to 250. Fair enough.

[Combean0007]

they gonna swim faster than me!1111  😔

[Ast]

whatthehell, wait sec, if they raise fps to 250 it could be swimming faster or wat

[Ralsei]

whatthehell, wait sec, if they raise fps to 250 it could be swimming faster or wat

No you swim like a snail with any fps higher than 60

[puuro]

they gonna swim faster than me!1111  😔

thats why when u go into water

pause -> settings -> frame limiter on -> /fpslimit 20 to become michael phelps

you already swim slow as fuck on 130 fps tho so doesnt really matter

whatthehell, wait sec, if they raise fps to 250 it could be swimming faster or wat

Higher fps = slower swim

[franklyn]

https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,2518.0.html

No

[puuro]

https://mikescnr.com/forum/index.php/topic,2518.0.html

No

why not, just cause it is a rule doesnt mean its right

post arguments pls

[AvenTadoR]

200th trying of capping FPS to something else than 130. Give it a try once more. +1

Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

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[puuro]

Incorrect. Server only alters damage values, not the fire/hit rate. And since currently higher FPS doesn't affect damage values, but affect fire/hit rate, increasing fps leads to higher DPS

Where did this myth even start from?

All guns fire at the same speed, doesnt matter if youre on 500 fps or 100 fps

[puuro]

ima give u a video thats show that u barely shoot any faster.

This video shows it in a worse light since its 100 vs 700, but realistically the gap between 130 and 250 is even smaller than that.

In my testing, i found the gap to be about 4 milliseconds between the fire rates of TEC & M4. 4 millisecond gap is a generous number too, accounting for editing error it would be probably even smaller.

4 Millisecond difference (in reality probably 1-2 ms) is not noticable at all, and is not a proper reason for the fps to be capped. The myth that guns shoot faster on higher fps is ""true"" but in reality the gap is so miniscule, it makes literally 0 difference.

[Ralsei]

Conclusion. Upping fps cap to 250 DOES NOT affect combat in any way.

[howl]

Typically, I find it quite indifferent to actually reject this following proposition. Since, the majority of the events are FPS based by this enormous game mechanic.

You're unable to take off the Skimmer? Just do it on a lower framerate.
Lower speed on boats? Take on your FPS limit.
Rarely taking fall damage? This is a server-sided damage based server, so there's no way to actually have the RNG on your side for this.
Pushing cars harder than the usual? Why does that one matter, nobody does that to actually take advantage, it's a useless thing to complain about.
Helicopter engine starts faster than the usual? It's already hard to take off the helicopter while we're dealing with the hotwiring in the first place (always fails on the 2nd attempt, bug).

And so on... The community are already well-aware of the following pros and cons for this whole case scenario, so it's practically no reason to even try arguing about it again, since you're gaining disadvantages on top of that aswell, which is quite balancing things out.

[puuro]

Typically, I find it quite indifferent to actually reject this following proposition. Since, the majority of the events are FPS based by this enormous game mechanic.

You're unable to take off the Skimmer? Just do it on a lower framerate.
Lower speed on boats? Take on your FPS limit.
Rarely taking fall damage? This is a server-sided damage based server, so there's no way to actually have the RNG on your side for this.
Pushing cars harder than the usual? Why does that one matter, nobody does that to actually take advantage, it's a useless thing to complain about.
Helicopter engine starts faster than the usual? It's already hard to take off the helicopter while we're dealing with the hotwiring in the first place (always fails on the 2nd attempt, bug).

And so on... The community are already well-aware of the following pros and cons for this whole case scenario, so it's practically no reason to even try arguing about it again, since you're gaining disadvantages on top of that aswell, which is quite balancing things out.

Exactly, the "reasons" its limited at 120 are negligent and rarely apply in regular situations. How overpowered can pushing cars faster be when there is maybe 1 super niche situation where it benefits you.

Like howl mentioned, high fps does come at its own cost

[Ralsei]

howl described it perfectly. Mike If you read this I hope we've proved you why It's a good idea.

[Ralsei]

Atleast its not rejected yet.

[Daryl_Dixon]

What about my core 2 duo 1gb nvdia 4gb ram PC

[Daryl_Dixon]

go buy another one.

in here its expensive thank u think

[BeatEn]

Why does it matter that you have a shit pc, when you can't even reach the current limit of 130 then you really shouldn't be worried about the limit being extended lmao

[Ricordi]

my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay

[Ralsei]

my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay

crashes.asi exist

[xev]

my PC Is a potato i play between 70/80 FPS when in standing and weather Is clean.
when fighting (hoping no explosion or big shootout) i have 40fps
when the weather Is fucked up thundering/raining i have 20fps..
so do what the fuck you want with this fps limit, until i get a new pc i will have a bad gameplay

i don't see that as our/server problem, i mean like what do you have, a 2 core processor? my gpu had some display issue since last 2 or 3 weeks, and i have been playing games without gpu.
In samp i get stable 130 fps in any weather and without fps cap i get like 200-250.

[Ricordi]

i don't see that as our/server problem, i mean like what do you have, a 2 core processor? my gpu had some display issue since last 2 or 3 weeks, and i have been playing games without gpu.
In samp i get stable 130 fps in any weather and without fps cap i get like 200-250.

My PC was good 7 years ago I have 8gb ram/2gb graphics/A10 Processor, but the PC through 7 years is slow, I guess my components are burned because every game freezes, fps drops hard and navigate on net is pretty is slow (is not a internet issue because I have 40/50 ping and speedtest is between 100/130 Mb per second in download and 70 upload.

[puuro]

Stop posting here it's already been said its not happening.

[Astro]

when i launch my samp i get like 500 fps and when i get on mcnr i get like 40 fps max, when i start recording it goes down to 7fps and its locked there. My laptop is more than trash and on other servers i get no lag and even get like 100 fps in fights so i think fps should be unlocked to at least 180-200

[Kanarimortem]

i dunno it messes your game 2 much 2 allow it